Favorite & Least Favorite 2025 Fantasy Football Draft Picks, Rounds 1-6

Season 2, Episode 5 of the Watch The Throne Fantasy Football Podcast brings the heat as hosts Al King and Gabe Hernandez, alongside producer Mic 4 and special guest Aaron Powers, dive into the first six rounds of the 2025 fantasy football draft.

From breakout stars to risky reaches, the crew debates their favorite and least favorite picks while delivering bold takes, sharp analysis, and plenty of laughs. Expect hot debates on names like Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, and Brock Bowers, plus surprise love for players such as Bo Nix, Calvin Ridley, and Tetearoa McMillan (TMACK).

🔥 Highlights include:

• Round-by-round draft analysis (Rounds 1–6)
• Injury concerns and ADP value debates
• Tight end drama with Kelce, Andrews, and Bowers
• A mid-show twist when Gabe has to jump into his own draft
• Guest insights from Aaron Powers on bounce-back and sleeper picks

Whether you’re a seasoned fantasy football vet or gearing up for your first draft, this episode gives you the edge you need to build a championship roster.

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Transcript

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Dominate your league, defend your crown with Hosel King,

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Gabe Hernandez,

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and Ray Fletcher.

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They bring the heat, rankings, trades, and game-winning calls to rule your league. This is Watch

The Throne Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Yes, sir. We're here for another episode. Not the usual suspects. I'm so used to saying the usual

suspects, but we have an... I don't want to say an imposter.

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A fill-in.

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We have-

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Wow.

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I don't want to say fill-in either. I want to say like-

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What's wrong with a fill-in?

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A contributing writer.

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No, no. I was, I was reacting to imposter.

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To thronefantasyfootball.com.

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Aaron Powers.

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He's a fill... He's a, he's-

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A fill-in.

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He's our-

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Is that worse or better than imposter?

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He's our fifth member of the podcast.

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Yeah.

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How's that feel? That's fine, right?

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Yeah. Well, six if you include Mike 4.

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Oh, my brother had a guest appearance last year.

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So I was counting your brother already.

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Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. So sixth.

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So sixth.

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Well, uh, fellas, thanks for having me. Feels good to be number six.

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Love to have you.

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Uh, uh, Ray, uh, I'm going to do good for you, man. Uh, uh, uh, I got some... Got some 49er love

for you. We- we're going to do it right.

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Oh, God.

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Who's the most famous number six that popped in your head? I got one. I had one right away.

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Most famous number six?

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Like ever?

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Mm-hmm. Off the top of your head.

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Like in all sports?

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Yeah, all sports.

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I'm gonna go Bill Russell.

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Okay.

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Did you have one?

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James Conner.

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Okay.

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He's not the most popular but-

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Mine was... Right. Mine was, uh, Heat LeBron James.

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Mm.

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Yeah, that was the second one that popped into my head was LeBron James.

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My second was Mark Martin. Is that funny? NASCAR?

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I mean, it's-

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I'm just so locked in, James Conner.

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It's interesting.

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I mean, if we want to make it relevant to the show, we could say Baker Mayfield.

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Ooh.

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That's another one.

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Okay. I think that you supersede all of them.

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Wow. Maybe not Bill Russell or LeBron, but I'll take the rest.

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[laughs] For sure. Can we introduce him too? I don't even know his name at this point.

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I said Aaron Powers.

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Did you?

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Yeah.

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I don't remember.

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Yep.

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Sorry.

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Dropped it.

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He may have said it at the beginning.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I don't think he did, but okay. We'll review the tape.

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It's Aaron Powers in the building in his office.

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Yes, yes. [laughs]

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If any of you don't know, this show is actually filmed, uh, in our, uh, real estate office. So we run

Powers Real Estate, and this is where the show is filmed. So, this is what you guys get to see

every week. And Al has been, uh, working here in the office and with me for years, so...

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Yep.

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Thanks for having me. We can say you're the heart and soul of the podcast actually then.

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We probably could.

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I wouldn't argue.

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[laughs]

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I think that's a great way to put it.

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Home.

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Yep.

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You're the home.

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Yep.

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The home base.

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[laughs]

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And, uh, and my partner Mike 4 over there. Yeah. He's definitely part of it.

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Absolutely.

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Hi, Mike 4.

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Hey, shout out, shout out. Appreciate it.

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Shout out, Mike 4. Any dum-dums today?

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Oh, how many I had or if there's any available?

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Yeah. Are you gonna have any?

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No.

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Good show.

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I'm in a butterscotch mood right now, man.

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Oh.

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I don't know what it is.

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Oh, I thought you were saying we were dum-dums.

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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Oh.

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You know what? There are enough dum-dums in here, if we have a bad take, Mike 4 could

throw a dum-dum at us.

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Mm.

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Yes, I could.

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Just hit me in the face.

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Too bad we're not going to have any bad takes.

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Correct. Correct.

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Bingo.

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Today's episode, that is not going to be full of bad takes, is our favorite and least favorite picks

of each round

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one through six. We're probably stopping at round six. Our favorite and least favorite. We'll see

if we get through all six. But we're going to get right into it, and we're going to start with me.

And it's going to be super simple.

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Why? Because I'm a simple type of man.

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[laughs]

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[laughs]

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Thank you, Aaron.

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This is true.

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Thank you, Aaron. Uh-

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That's not true

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... Jamar Chase is my favorite

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first round draft pick. Because...

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He's the obvious one. Because he's gonna be the first ever player

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to repeat as the Triple Crown winner for wide receivers. He's only like the fifth to ever do it.

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I believe you read-

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Old?

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You read off some names earlier.

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He's standing on that throne?

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I think so.

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Okay.

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If he stays healthy. Remember last week? I remember you said, "This offense is gonna be the

greatest offense of all time."

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It's looking like it.

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You remember saying that?

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Yeah, I do. I did say it.

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Don't you think that the greatest offense of all time will also once again have the greatest

receiver in the league?

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I'd argue that he probably has the best chance of winning a back-to-back Triple Crown of any

receiver in the league. So...

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Yes.

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I like it.

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So, my favorite is Jamar Chase. I know you've got to get them probably 1-1 most places, like

you got to take them first overall. But I kind of think it's him, and we do fall in this trap

sometimes with fantasy. It's the obvious number one pick, and then like three or four other

names that are well below him. So I think Jamar Chase has to go 1-1, but if I'm picking 1-1, it's

Jamar Chase, hands down, no doubt for me.

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Well, we have a draft tomorrow. Aaron picks three. I pick four. Aaron won't reveal who he's

taking.

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[laughs]

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But the first two picks are Saquon and Bijan. So one of us is going to be lucky to get Chase at

three or four. I don't know who it's gonna be, but...

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Chase at three or four will be me.

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One of us should get Jamar Chase.

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Oh. He definitely won't make it past four, I'll tell you that right now.

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[laughs]

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Guarantee that.

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We'll see tomorrow.

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Yeah, we will.

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We will.

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Any, any other takes on Jamar Chase? I know that one's pretty simple.

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No, that was easy. On to the next.

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No, you, you took the easy take there, sir.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Jamar Chase is, uh, the best receiver in football. Although I will say I don't know that it's him

and then everybody else. I would argue there are three or four really good receivers that, that

could compete with him. But is he going to get

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more targets than race- relatively anybody else at his position? And does Joe Burrow absolutely

love to throw him the ball? For sure. Are they going to be the greatest offense ever? Uh, I don't

think so.

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TBD.

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Uh, and what are we judging that on, by the way, greatest offense ever?

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I think it would just be like points.

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Most fantasy points ever.

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Oh. Okay.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, fantasy points ever.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I mean, it's a fantasy show.

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Understood.

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I'm going fantasy points.

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Understood. I was just gonna say do you know which team that is currently?

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Oh.

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... of most fan- Oh, no, I don't. Do you know?

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Was it the-

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Well, if- It-

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... Kurt, Kurt Warner led Rams or-

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If we're... It, so fantasy points might be.

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Okay.

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But I was just thinking about in general.

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Mm-hmm.

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But the greatest offense numbers wise is the Broncos.

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The Peyton Manning Broncos?

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Peyton Manning led Broncos. Yeah.

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Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas.

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Yeah. Yep. Yep.

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Julius Thomas.

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Julius Thomas. Yep.

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Oh, my God. I'm blanking on the running back right now.

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For that team?

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Yes. Uh-

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No Sean

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... that would've been No Sean.

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Wow.

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Yes. Yep. Nice.

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Yeah.

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Uh-

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What a pull. Yep.

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That was just points scored though, not like yards and all the stuff there.

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And, uh, uh, also, uh, Wes Welker.

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Wow.

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And Wes Welker, of course.

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Was the one you forgot.

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Of course.

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Yep. What an offense that was.

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It was unbelievable. Yeah.

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That was probably the greatest fantasy football offense of all time.

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Of all time. So, of all time-

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I think that's where you're trying to beat right there.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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But, uh, yeah.

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They won't have a third receiver or a tight end, but-

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Who?

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The Bengals.

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Yeah, they... Quarterback could finish top 10, top five. Receiver is going to start off-

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The Bengals have two tight ends to throw the ball to, at least.

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Is this true?

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It's Gesicki and they just added him last week. I was talking about him. Who was it?

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Noah Fant.

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Noah Fant.

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Noah Fant. And, uh-

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Chase Brown out the bathroom.

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Don't, don't get overly excited about Noah Fant. [laughs]

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No. Yeah. For sure not. For sure not. I'm not drafting either of those tight ends.

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Regardless, Ja'Marr Chase is my favorite first round pick.

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Gabe, who's yours?

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So, this has everything to do with value. My whole take for the whole six rounds will be the

value pick. So, right now, the average ADP for the 12th pick in the first round is Malik Nabers.

And Malik Nabers was

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top 10 receiver last year, and I would have to look up exactly where he finished, but the amount

of targets he's going to get. I know the concern with the injuries in the off season and training

camp. He hasn't been practicing. He returned to practice this week. I wanted to play the video

or the... I had a picture of Malik Nabers chest bumping Jackson Dart in the preseason game.

That man's vertical is ridiculous.

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[laughs]

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That man is going to be perfectly fine when the season comes, okay? I promise you that. He's

still got two weeks. He's practicing. He's gonna ramp it up. Malik Nabers at 12 is going to be a

great pick. He... I'd argue he could be wide receiver four or five.

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Wide receiver six last year.

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He... I took him in the fourth round, and I, I remember I hated it.

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[laughs]

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But then I... Well, I not hated it, but I was like, "Ah, I think I could have waited on him." No, but I

had to take him right then and there.

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Mm-hmm.

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He's a great receiver. He's gonna... He had like 170 targets last year. He's the only receiving

threat in the Giants offense. Russell Wilson, you upgrade quarterbacks from Daniel Jones to

Russell Wilson, I think this is gonna be another high target, high volume, high execution. He's

gonna get an, uh, I think 100 catches and I'll say 1,200 yards and 10 plus touchdowns.

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Did you say you got him in the fourth round last year?

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Yes.

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Wow.

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First pick, fourth round.

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Wow. Okay.

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Nice.

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What's your take on Malik?

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So, um, I almost put Malik as my least favorite.

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Hmm.

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And then I changed it.

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Okay.

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And the only reason I, I had him there is because he is the least proven commodity in the first

round, in my opinion. Um, now, you know, take that as you may. His situation does not change.

Uh, do I think he has better quarterback options than he did?

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Maybe. [laughs] Maybe. I don't know. Uh, Daniel Jones forced him the ball. Basically, uh, every

Giants quarterback is going to force him the ball. That's the only other concern I have, is just

that it all has to work out. They have to force him the ball and he's got to still be open when the

defense knows they're only gonna force him the ball. So, that's a little concerning only in that

respect. But could he get enough just peppered at him to be in the top five again? Absolutely.

Yes. And if you can get him at the end of the first round-

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Mm-hmm

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... I like it.

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You're not worried about his toe at all?

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He played through it last year.

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Right. Yeah. He deals with it. Yeah.

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It's something he's been dealing with since college.

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Yep.

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So, no, I'm not worried about it.

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Not... He's not old enough for it to really affect him.

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The man's toe is 22 years old, fellas.

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Correct.

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He's gonna be okay.

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Yep. That's a young toe. [laughs]

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The, the vertical I saw, he's gonna be perfectly fine.

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That's a young toe.

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He's gonna be okay. That's a young toe.

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[laughs]

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Aaron, who's your favorite? [laughs] Who's your favorite first round pick, Aaron?

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Uh, so-

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I love this by the way.

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So, my favorite first round pick is Christian McCaffrey, and he's gonna be the biggest

risk-reward pick you have in the first round. And I, I was kind of with Gabe in, in the way I did it

was I look at, okay, what's the value? If I can get him at the end of the first round. Now, if I have

to take him with one of the top three to five picks, I'm more concerned, of course. Like if, if

you're gonna reach for him oth- o- o- over other guys, maybe not so much. But if you can get

him at the end of the first round, you're talking about a player that if... of course, if he stays

healthy, like we're gonna say for every single player on this list, if they stay healthy-

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Yeah

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... he has the opportunity to be the number one overall player in fantasy football.

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I love that.

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And I don't really see how he doesn't.

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Aaron.

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Um-

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Sorry. Co- continue.

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So, in his healthy seasons where he actually played full seasons, he has never finished lower

than running back two in PPR. Never lower than running back two in a full season.

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You hear that?

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He had the two years where he was hurt with Carolina, back to back seasons. He gets traded

the middle of that year, finishes running back one. So, he has been hurt before and come back

and still been that guy again. He's still less than 30 years old.

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He's still... Uh, I think he's got something to prove personally.

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Mm-hmm.

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I don't think he wants to be the Christian McCaffrey that always gets hurt and that's how he's

looked at. He's a very prideful individual. And so I think

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for me, I think this is a year he comes back and shows everybody like, "You better take me

number one next year."

00:11:48,687 --> 00:11:56,247 [Speaker 1]

Well, and, and he- he's coming off of a well-rested season, right? If you will. He didn't play

much. So, he's-

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No.

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He's fresh.

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And he, he came and he, he, he shouldn't have... Like, players get hurt, too much pride, come

back too early.

00:12:03,727 --> 00:12:03,907 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

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He, he's just...

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Yeah.

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So, he- I think he's primed to- to have a good year.

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Listen, Aaron, before Gabe... Before you answer, Aaron gave some nuggets there.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I read an article somewhere

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with those same nuggets, I think written by the same Aaron Powers. He wrote his first article for

the website ThrownFanaticsFootball.com. If you haven't checked it out, please do. It is the-

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You... Oh, article?

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Yep.

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So, article is, um, the bounce-back candidates to target this year.

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Mm.

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And so, he was my number one bounce-back candidate.

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Like it.

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Although the highest ADP of- by far of anyone on that list. [laughs]

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No doubt.

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So, that's the thing. Like, that's how good he is, is that he's been hurt and is still gonna get

drafted in the first round. So, you know, I'm- I'm in the understanding of the players are gonna

play, and so that's- that's how I did it.

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Let the players play. Players gonna play.

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Yeah. And, uh, by the way, I'm an author now. I'm- I'm published online, so-

00:12:58,287 --> 00:12:58,767 [Speaker 1]

Yep. Yep

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... Aaron Powers is an author, apparently.

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Correct. I told him before he can get on the pod, he had to write an article on the website. And-

00:13:05,587 --> 00:13:06,387 [Speaker 2]

Nice.

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He ruined my opening line for him, of contributing author who hasn't contributed yet, 'cause he

finished the article yesterday.

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[laughs]

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[laughs] So, I wasn't able to bust that out.

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Yeah, I've been known to hit some deadlines.

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[laughs] So, please check that out, if you haven't checked out the website,

ThrownFanaticsFootball.com. His article is actually really good. I read it, proof- proofread it. No

mistakes, perfect like he said.

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Of course. Yeah, I mean, my mom was an English major.

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Truth.

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She had me on my Ps and Qs.

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We're gonna go on our least favorite, and-

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Mm-hmm

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... that player that Aaron was just talking about kinda rolls perfectly over into your least favorite

first round pick.

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It does?

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Say it ain't so, Gabe.

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So,

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m- here's the thing, guys. I- I try to play devil's advocate all the time, and I love it.

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What's the devil's ad-

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I love playing devil's advocate.

00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:54,687 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

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'Cause we- that's the thing, we have to look at both sides of fantasy football. There's always two

sides.

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And there definitely is two sides to Christian McCaffrey.

00:14:01,047 --> 00:14:11,767 [Speaker 2]

Gabe goes first. Christian McCaffrey, and I agree- I agree with everything Aaron just said about

Christian McCaffrey. If he was to... If you told me he's going to be 100% healthy the whole

season, he's my number one pick.

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But that's why he's my least favorite, because I don't think he's gonna stay healthy. Right now,

he is crawling up the first round. His ADP's called, uh, crawled up to seven. Now, he was

diagnosed with tendonitis. Now, I don't play a doctor.

00:14:25,767 --> 00:14:26,507 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:14:26,507 --> 00:14:27,867 [Speaker 2]

But I Google a lot.

00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:29,287 [Speaker 1]

I did see him on Hot Sauce 6 last night.

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I di- I did s-

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No, it's a Holiday Inn Express.

00:14:31,427 --> 00:14:31,867 [Speaker 2]

Thank you.

00:14:31,867 --> 00:14:33,027 [Speaker 3]

You butchered the lie, man.

00:14:33,027 --> 00:14:33,187 [Speaker 1]

Wow.

00:14:33,187 --> 00:14:35,167 [Speaker 2]

I was trying to say- I was trying to set it up for Aaron.

00:14:35,167 --> 00:14:36,007 [Speaker 1]

Well, we'll use the lights on for you. Wow.

00:14:36,007 --> 00:14:36,887 [Speaker 3]

Oh my gosh.

00:14:36,887 --> 00:15:18,367 [Speaker 2]

But, so he was diagnosed with bilateral Achilles tendonitis. So, let me just read what Google has

to say about this. It's caused by repetitive strain from activities like running, a sudden increase

in exercise intensity, or improper footwear. Now, you guys said he- off season, he's been taken

it light. I don't like that. That means he hasn't been doing the same regimen he has been when

he's been great, because he's tending to the tendonitis in the Achilles. My concern with him

comes November and December, when he's running, he's playing hard. Now, if they only give

him 10 to 15 carries, then maybe he can make it through the whole season. But then if- or if

you're drafting Christian McCaffrey in the first round, and he's only getting 10 to 15 carries, are

you gonna be happy with him?

00:15:18,367 --> 00:15:18,507 [Speaker 1]

No.

00:15:18,507 --> 00:15:37,567 [Speaker 2]

No, you're gonna want more. You want more touches. So, my concern with him is just the

questionable health, the tendonitis. I... Listen, if you played sports, I think we all have

tendonitis. I have a little. I mean, obviously he's not gonna be like Christian McCaffrey. We're

not built like Christian McCaffrey. I'm not trying to say that. I'm not trying to compare us to

Christian McCaffrey. But,

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any tendonitis comes and goes. It depends what you're doing. If you move a heavy box, if

you're running like he's going to be running in the regular season, he's going to flare up. I'm

just concerned when it is. And if not, he- then they're just gonna use him very little in the

beginning, and he's not gonna live up to the first round pick that you take him at. So, that's my

take on Christian McCaffrey. That's why he's my least favorite, because he's going to number

seven, and there's other guys I would take ahead of him, because I am concerned about thethe

Achilles.

00:16:03,687 --> 00:16:12,067 [Speaker 1]

One of the things that Aaron said was he would not be super comfortable three to five, like in

the first five picks,

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but more comfortable toward the back end of the first round. That's exactly how I felt about

Christian McCaffrey all off season. I have pick nine and one in the drafts. I was hoping he'd get

there to me. It seems like he probably won't. But I also have pick five in a draft, and I'm not

sure I want to take him there. So, it's- it's this weird fine line with McCaffery of like five or nine. I

d- you know?

00:16:34,487 --> 00:16:38,307 [Speaker 2]

And real quick to piggyback off that, 'cause I've seen him as high as three.

00:16:38,307 --> 00:16:38,607 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:16:38,607 --> 00:16:40,147 [Speaker 2]

And then as low as like nine.

00:16:40,147 --> 00:16:40,307 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:16:40,307 --> 00:16:54,027 [Speaker 2]

So, that high is threes was scar- like, right now his ADP is seven. There's definitely receivers I

would rather take over here. Like, I'd rather take Neighbors, because I do believe in Malik

Neighbors. He's young, he's healthy. I mean, I know he's got the toe thing, but we've almentioned,

he plays through it.

00:16:54,027 --> 00:16:54,707 [Speaker 1]

The toe, dude, the toe.

00:16:54,707 --> 00:16:56,207 [Speaker 3]

Can- can we Google the toe real quick?

00:16:56,207 --> 00:16:56,767 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:16:56,767 --> 00:16:57,507 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:16:57,507 --> 00:17:10,867 [Speaker 2]

I- if I knew exactly what it was, I would have. But no, he- he just deals with it since college. So,

I'm not concerned about that. This is something new with Christian McCaffery that picked up

last year, and obviously it was a complete bust last year. So, that's what concerns me with him.

00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:12,647 [Speaker 1]

Googling young toe.

00:17:12,647 --> 00:17:12,847 [Speaker 2]

Gabe-

00:17:12,847 --> 00:17:13,767 [Speaker 3]

Can I ask you a question?

00:17:13,767 --> 00:17:14,247 [Speaker 2]

Of course.

00:17:14,247 --> 00:17:16,227 [Speaker 3]

Did you draft Christian McCaffery last year?

00:17:16,227 --> 00:17:17,047 [Speaker 2]

I sure did.

00:17:17,047 --> 00:17:17,607 [Speaker 3]

Mm.

00:17:17,607 --> 00:17:18,827 [Speaker 1]

Emotional.

00:17:18,827 --> 00:17:19,907 [Speaker 2]

Interesting take.

00:17:19,907 --> 00:17:20,907 [Speaker 3]

You can- you can take it how it is.

00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:20,927 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

00:17:20,927 --> 00:17:22,847 [Speaker 3]

Interesting take. Can I ask you a question?

00:17:22,847 --> 00:17:23,167 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:26,347 [Speaker 3]

Is Christian McCaffery the son of a famous Broncos wide receiver?

00:17:26,347 --> 00:17:27,407 [Speaker 2]

He absolutely is.

00:17:27,407 --> 00:17:27,627 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

00:17:27,627 --> 00:17:28,207 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:17:28,207 --> 00:17:29,487 [Speaker 1]

Oh, yes he is.

00:17:29,487 --> 00:17:30,487 [Speaker 3]

I see.

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Shout out to Ed McCaffery, by the way.

00:17:32,167 --> 00:17:32,187 [Speaker 2]

Mm.

00:17:32,187 --> 00:17:32,947 [Speaker 1]

I see.

00:17:32,947 --> 00:17:34,307 [Speaker 3]

Great Broncos wide receiver.

00:17:34,307 --> 00:17:35,487 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:17:35,487 --> 00:17:38,607 [Speaker 3]

And my- my take obviously has nothing to do with that, by the way.

00:17:38,607 --> 00:17:38,627 [Speaker 1]

I know.

00:17:38,627 --> 00:17:39,927 [Speaker 3]

But, uh, shout out to Ed McCaffery.

00:17:39,927 --> 00:17:41,267 [Speaker 1]

Shout out, Ed.

00:17:41,267 --> 00:17:45,787 [Speaker 3]

All right, so I got a question for you guys real quick before we move on. Uh, what do we think

about the trade?

00:17:45,787 --> 00:17:45,807 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

00:17:45,807 --> 00:17:52,167 [Speaker 3]

So, uh, Brian Robinson Jr. just got traded from the Commanders to back up Christian McCaffery.

00:17:52,167 --> 00:17:52,247 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:17:52,247 --> 00:17:54,547 [Speaker 3]

Does that have any effect on what we're talking about?

00:17:54,547 --> 00:18:04,047 [Speaker 1]

You know, when I first saw it, I was concerned, like, "Okay, maybe the Niners have some actual

concerns about this tendonitis."

00:18:04,047 --> 00:18:33,536 [Speaker 1]

And so, they went out and got a running back. I like Gerwendel, which is the current backup.

Well, was the current backup. Now he's behind B-Rob.Uh, I think it just is a insurance policy. I

don't think it's gonna affect his playing time. Uh, I've really been kinda thinking about it. B Rob

isn't the same guy as Christian McCaffrey. It would, it would take both the guys to replace what

McCaffrey does. And so, I think that s- CMC will still get his

00:18:33,536 --> 00:18:40,315 [Speaker 1]

playing time and B Rob will just spell him every now and then. You know, but I'm not worried

about him taking goal line or any of that stuff.

00:18:40,315 --> 00:19:00,935 [Speaker 2]

It kinda supports my, they might only give him 10 to 15 carries in the beginning, and here

comes Brian Robinson, here comes Isaac Gerendso. So, uh, I can see them going that way. Uh,

uh, I'm just not touching Christian McCaffrey, if I'm gonna be honest, this year. But I, uh, I think

it affects a little bit, but not as much as people think. I wouldn't scare him out the first round.

00:19:00,935 --> 00:19:03,455 [Speaker 1]

My least favorite

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first round pick, Ashton Gentry of the Las Vegas Raiders. Uh, former employer. Shout out,

Raiders. And

00:19:13,175 --> 00:19:16,335 [Speaker 1]

I just think that the O line

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is not good,

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point blank. And I don't think they did enough to improve it. I know Pete Carroll's there, I know

Chip Kelly's there. The scheme, all the stuff, all the things. Ashton Gentry's talented, this and

that. He, when I made this list, was going, I think I put 12.3, which made him a borderline round

one guy.

00:19:37,155 --> 00:19:37,515 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:19:37,515 --> 00:19:44,835 [Speaker 1]

He's all the way up to 11 now, which makes him, in a 12 team league, pretty firmly in the first

round, I guess.

00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:45,195 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:19:45,195 --> 00:19:46,575 [Speaker 1]

Um,

00:19:46,575 --> 00:19:58,495 [Speaker 1]

I'm just not a believer in the Raiders' offense. Nothing against Gentry and his skills, nothing

against that at all. I think it's just, I'm not a beli-... I need to see it before I take a running back

in the first round

00:19:58,495 --> 00:20:02,955 [Speaker 1]

for the Raiders. And I haven't seen it yet.

00:20:02,955 --> 00:20:03,895 [Speaker 1]

Now, do you take-

00:20:03,895 --> 00:20:03,995 [Speaker 2]

Yeah

00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:07,575 [Speaker 1]

... Gentry before McCaffrey, Gabe? That was my question

00:20:07,575 --> 00:20:08,555 [Speaker 1]

that I had in my mind.

00:20:08,555 --> 00:20:17,655 [Speaker 2]

[smacks lips] [sighs] I, I would rather, but, uh, I, I don't know.

00:20:17,655 --> 00:20:22,675 [Speaker 1]

Their current ADP has, has McCaffery running back five, Gentry running back six.

00:20:22,675 --> 00:20:26,195 [Speaker 2]

I originally, in my original rankings, I had Gentry rated higher.

00:20:26,195 --> 00:20:26,655 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:20:26,655 --> 00:20:44,175 [Speaker 2]

I moved Christian McCaffery ahead of Gentry, but my thing is, my preference would probably be

Gentry. Like, I'd rather have that later round pick and let someone take McCaffery ahead of me,

and then I end up with Gentry. If I'm at seven or eight or nine, I feel like I'm kind of forced to

take Christian McCaffery. But I would rather have Gentry.

00:20:44,175 --> 00:20:45,195 [Speaker 1]

Interesting.

00:20:45,195 --> 00:20:45,835 [Speaker 2]

If that makes sense.

00:20:45,835 --> 00:20:51,295 [Speaker 3]

I, I think the reason is, is because you don't wanna pass on McCaffery, who's a proven thing-

00:20:51,295 --> 00:20:51,395 [Speaker 2]

Right

00:20:51,395 --> 00:20:54,035 [Speaker 3]

... and then Gentry doesn't, and you're like, "He was right there for me."

00:20:54,035 --> 00:20:54,055 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:20:54,055 --> 00:20:56,235 [Speaker 3]

And I... Yeah, yeah. That's why I get the dilemma.

00:20:56,235 --> 00:20:56,555 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:20:56,555 --> 00:21:23,735 [Speaker 3]

Um, I actually think Gentry's gonna be pretty good. And I, I think even if the Raiders are bad,

the amount of volume that he is going to receive is going to make him a RB1. Like, Pete Carroll

and Chip Kelly are going to run the ball over and over and over again. [laughs] I don't care if

they're up, if they're down, they are going to commit to running the football. And if they have to

throw it, guess who they're going to throw it to?

00:21:23,735 --> 00:21:23,855 [Speaker 3]

Gentry.

00:21:23,855 --> 00:21:26,515 [Speaker 2]

Brock Bowers. Oh, sorry. Gentry. Sorry.

00:21:26,515 --> 00:21:27,535 [Speaker 3]

They're gonna... But both.

00:21:27,535 --> 00:21:27,875 [Speaker 2]

No, Gentry's-

00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:29,455 [Speaker 3]

I mean both, but Gentry is going-

00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:29,475 [Speaker 2]

He can catch

00:21:29,475 --> 00:21:30,275 [Speaker 3]

... to get the ball. I mean, they-

00:21:30,275 --> 00:21:31,255 [Speaker 2]

He can be a pass catcher.

00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:39,895 [Speaker 3]

They are going to throw screens. They are going to get him the ball. So I think just based on

volume alone, uh, he will be a first round pick.

00:21:39,895 --> 00:21:40,255 [Speaker 1]

Do we-

00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:41,935 [Speaker 3]

I don't... He's not my favorite first round pick, by any means.

00:21:41,935 --> 00:21:42,115 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:42,115 --> 00:21:42,635 [Speaker 2]

Right.

00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:45,135 [Speaker 3]

But he, he should be in that range, I think.

00:21:45,135 --> 00:21:48,435 [Speaker 1]

Do we all agree that Josh Jacobs is a good running back?

00:21:48,435 --> 00:21:48,775 [Speaker 3]

Yes.

00:21:48,775 --> 00:21:49,255 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, absolutely.

00:21:49,255 --> 00:21:52,055 [Speaker 1]

Do we all agree that he's a really good running back?

00:21:52,055 --> 00:21:52,675 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:21:52,675 --> 00:21:55,935 [Speaker 3]

I mean, he's in the upper echelon of running backs, yes.

00:21:55,935 --> 00:22:02,555 [Speaker 1]

Okay. Do we all agree that 233 carries is a lot of carries for a season?

00:22:02,555 --> 00:22:02,935 [Speaker 2]

It's-

00:22:02,935 --> 00:22:03,595 [Speaker 1]

233.

00:22:03,595 --> 00:22:04,455 [Speaker 2]

It's medium for-

00:22:04,455 --> 00:22:04,935 [Speaker 3]

It's-

00:22:04,935 --> 00:22:05,555 [Speaker 2]

... a workhorse.

00:22:05,555 --> 00:22:08,735 [Speaker 3]

It's, it's not what Jacobs should get in a season, in my opinion.

00:22:08,735 --> 00:22:10,075 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, we're talking, he should've got-

00:22:10,075 --> 00:22:11,555 [Speaker 1]

Okay, in 13, in 13 games.

00:22:11,555 --> 00:22:12,475 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:22:12,475 --> 00:22:15,315 [Speaker 1]

His last season with the Raiders, okay?

00:22:15,315 --> 00:22:25,735 [Speaker 1]

233 yards. This is roughly the same offensive line. This is 2023. They've not changed much up

front. They've cut some guys. They brought in a guard who was rated the worst guard by PFF.

00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:27,715 [Speaker 3]

Who was their coach?

00:22:27,715 --> 00:22:28,975 [Speaker 1]

I hear you.

00:22:28,975 --> 00:22:29,635 [Speaker 3]

No, no, it was-

00:22:29,635 --> 00:22:29,955 [Speaker 1]

It was Josh.

00:22:29,955 --> 00:22:30,575 [Speaker 3]

Who was their coach?

00:22:30,575 --> 00:22:32,455 [Speaker 1]

It was Josh, and then AP.

00:22:32,455 --> 00:22:32,835 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. And-

00:22:32,835 --> 00:22:34,515 [Speaker 1]

Right? McDaniels and Antonio Pierce.

00:22:34,515 --> 00:22:35,455 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:36,675 [Speaker 1]

233 carries. 800-

00:22:36,675 --> 00:22:38,995 [Speaker 3]

Are you running the football hard for those two?

00:22:38,995 --> 00:22:45,795 [Speaker 1]

805 yards. 3.5 yards a carry, only six touchdowns in 13 games. 3.5 yards a carry.

00:22:45,795 --> 00:22:46,435 [Speaker 3]

So just-

00:22:46,435 --> 00:22:56,155 [Speaker 1]

The next year, 4.4 yards a carry. The year prior, 4.9 yards a carry. They haven't changed the O

line too much since 2023, and that's my concern.

00:22:56,155 --> 00:22:56,715 [Speaker 3]

I know.

00:22:56,715 --> 00:22:59,415 [Speaker 1]

A guy that good couldn't do it?

00:22:59,415 --> 00:23:01,095 [Speaker 3]

Hold on. If he gets, if he gets three-

00:23:01,095 --> 00:23:03,395 [Speaker 1]

We went Jamir White last year. He was not good.

00:23:03,395 --> 00:23:04,535 [Speaker 3]

If he gets 300 carries-

00:23:04,535 --> 00:23:04,655 [Speaker 1]

Yep

00:23:04,655 --> 00:23:07,715 [Speaker 3]

... in that offense, Josh Jacobs, is he an R-

00:23:07,715 --> 00:23:07,735 [Speaker 1]

That's-

00:23:07,735 --> 00:23:08,815 [Speaker 3]

... is he an RB1?

00:23:08,815 --> 00:23:13,375 [Speaker 1]

At 3.5 yards a carry, that would be, what, 1,050 yards? No.

00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,895 [Speaker 3]

Volume alone, plus receiving and touchdowns.

00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,355 [Speaker 1]

No.

00:23:18,355 --> 00:23:19,835 [Speaker 3]

He gets really close.

00:23:19,835 --> 00:23:21,815 [Speaker 1]

In this Raiders' offense? In this current-

00:23:21,815 --> 00:23:22,115 [Speaker 3]

Well, yes.

00:23:22,115 --> 00:23:23,675 [Speaker 1]

In the 2020... Or this current one?

00:23:23,675 --> 00:23:24,895 [Speaker 3]

Well, you're saying it's the same.

00:23:24,895 --> 00:23:27,535 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, it's, it's roughly the same.

00:23:27,535 --> 00:23:28,655 [Speaker 3]

That's my disagreement.

00:23:28,655 --> 00:23:29,875 [Speaker 2]

But coaching has a lot to do with it, too.

00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:29,955 [Speaker 3]

It's not the same.

00:23:29,955 --> 00:23:30,975 [Speaker 1]

Of course. No, I agree.

00:23:30,975 --> 00:23:31,395 [Speaker 3]

It's not the same.

00:23:31,395 --> 00:23:39,735 [Speaker 1]

I agree. The staff, uh, the scheme and everything's gonna be different, so that's the one

positive. But the guys, if the guys are still the same.

00:23:39,735 --> 00:23:43,755 [Speaker 1]

Some dudes do improve drastically, scheme-wise. Right? Obviously.

00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:46,195 [Speaker 3]

I can tell you coaching makes a difference.

00:23:46,195 --> 00:23:48,755 [Speaker 1]

Oh, huge. Especially for li- for the interior line and stuff, right?

00:23:48,755 --> 00:23:52,815 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm. I'd argue though, Gentry's a better prospect of a running back than Jacobs was.

00:23:52,815 --> 00:23:53,515 [Speaker 3]

Oh, for sure.

00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:53,695 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

00:23:53,695 --> 00:23:54,375 [Speaker 2]

So Gentry...

00:23:54,375 --> 00:23:54,975 [Speaker 3]

Sure.

00:23:54,975 --> 00:24:10,275 [Speaker 2]

G- the offensive line's gotten a little bit... I hear what you're saying. They have, uh, made a

couple changes here. They got a new coaching staff. Gentry, to me, outlines a better running

back long term than Jacobs. So I, I... You know how I feel about Gentry. I love Gentry.

00:24:10,275 --> 00:24:10,295 [Speaker 3]

For sure. For sure.

00:24:10,295 --> 00:24:21,067 [Speaker 2]

When we first started the pod- like the first episode, I said Gentry for me would be like a top five

pick.I've scaled back a little bit, but I love Gente. Like I... If I had a backend pick in any of my

drafts, I would take him.

00:24:21,067 --> 00:24:23,848 [Speaker 1]

I'm very much on the outside of this opinion. And-

00:24:23,848 --> 00:24:24,007 [Speaker 2]

Yes

00:24:24,007 --> 00:24:24,888 [Speaker 1]

... um, I'm willing to-

00:24:24,888 --> 00:24:25,487 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm, a lot.

00:24:25,487 --> 00:24:32,948 [Speaker 1]

I'm willing to kinda stand there. Kinda like I was with Anthony Richardson last year. I think

Gente might be my AR, uh, bust call of this year maybe.

00:24:32,948 --> 00:24:34,067 [Speaker 2]

That's re- that's-

00:24:34,067 --> 00:24:37,528 [Speaker 1]

AR was... I was very highly aggressive on last year.

00:24:37,528 --> 00:24:37,567 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:24:37,567 --> 00:24:39,368 [Speaker 1]

I'm not as aggressive on Gente this year.

00:24:39,368 --> 00:24:40,487 [Speaker 2]

I was gonna say, that's-

00:24:40,487 --> 00:24:40,587 [Speaker 3]

No

00:24:40,587 --> 00:24:41,567 [Speaker 2]

... that's bold.

00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:47,047 [Speaker 1]

Um, but, uh, yeah, I'm just... I don't think he's a first round pick in, in fantasy. I need to see it

first.

00:24:47,047 --> 00:24:52,268 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. I, I just think he has the upside to make it. So, um, anyways, we'll move on. Right?

00:24:52,268 --> 00:24:53,527 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Sorry, I got really passionate there.

00:24:53,527 --> 00:24:53,547 [Speaker 3]

No, no, w- well-

00:24:53,547 --> 00:24:55,108 [Speaker 1]

That might be the most passionate I've gotten.

00:24:55,108 --> 00:24:55,407 [Speaker 2]

Mm-mm.

00:24:55,407 --> 00:24:55,768 [Speaker 3]

I like it.

00:24:55,768 --> 00:24:56,327 [Speaker 1]

Oh, okay.

00:24:56,327 --> 00:24:59,387 [Speaker 3]

I like it. No, you hating on Gabe's Drake London take is more passionate.

00:24:59,387 --> 00:24:59,547 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:24:59,547 --> 00:25:01,527 [Speaker 3]

But a- anyways. Go watch that episode.

00:25:01,527 --> 00:25:02,327 [Speaker 2]

I definitely... I really thought we were gonna-

00:25:02,327 --> 00:25:05,507 [Speaker 3]

Um, all right. So my least favorite for round one-

00:25:05,507 --> 00:25:05,648 [Speaker 2]

Yep

00:25:05,648 --> 00:25:10,827 [Speaker 3]

... uh, probably gonna be a thing that most people don't agree with, but I'm taking Saquan

Barkley-

00:25:10,827 --> 00:25:11,227 [Speaker 2]

Saquan

00:25:11,227 --> 00:25:16,887 [Speaker 3]

... as my least favorite. And it really has to go just with usage.

00:25:16,887 --> 00:25:29,807 [Speaker 3]

I- i- history shows that a running back that runs for over 2,000 yards is just not the same the

next season. I hope I'm wrong 'cause I love Saquan. And I hope he has an awesome year.

00:25:29,807 --> 00:25:36,187 [Speaker 3]

There have been... I don't know exactly how many, but a lo- a handful of running backs that

have run for 2,000 yards in the NFL.

00:25:36,187 --> 00:25:37,847 [Speaker 1]

Y'all remember CJ 2K?

00:25:37,847 --> 00:25:45,507 [Speaker 3]

There has never been any of them have run for more than 1,500 yards the next season.

00:25:45,507 --> 00:25:46,887 [Speaker 1]

Wow, 1,500.

00:25:46,887 --> 00:25:46,907 [Speaker 3]

Never.

00:25:46,907 --> 00:25:47,227 [Speaker 1]

They fall down fast, huh?

00:25:47,227 --> 00:25:53,867 [Speaker 3]

The most ever is Barry Sanders with 1,491 the year after he ran for 2,000 yards.

00:25:53,867 --> 00:25:55,227 [Speaker 1]

Oh, wow. That's a good nugget.

00:25:55,227 --> 00:25:55,827 [Speaker 3]

And I don't know how many-

00:25:55,827 --> 00:25:55,927 [Speaker 2]

Ooh

00:25:55,927 --> 00:25:58,807 [Speaker 3]

... passes Barry caught back then, but I don't think it's like the ways-

00:25:58,807 --> 00:25:59,367 [Speaker 2]

It wasn't very many

00:25:59,367 --> 00:26:01,967 [Speaker 3]

... it's not the way that they use running backs in today's day and age.

00:26:01,967 --> 00:26:03,167 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:26:03,167 --> 00:26:21,367 [Speaker 3]

So honestly, that is my biggest concern for Saquan, is just the amount of touches he got last

year and what the history shows. Uh, if you guys can see the jersey I'm wearing on the video,

um, I have Terrell Davis' jersey on. He ran for over 2,000 yards. The next season, you guys

remember what happened?

00:26:21,367 --> 00:26:22,207 [Speaker 2]

He got hurt, right?

00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:23,207 [Speaker 3]

He tore his ACL.

00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:23,527 [Speaker 2]

Yep.

00:26:23,527 --> 00:26:25,427 [Speaker 3]

He was never the same player again.

00:26:25,427 --> 00:26:26,307 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

00:26:26,307 --> 00:26:30,687 [Speaker 3]

It basically virtually ended his career. Now,

00:26:30,687 --> 00:26:31,067 [Speaker 3]

things are a lot-

00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,187 [Speaker 1]

We're not wishing that on Saquan, do we?

00:26:32,187 --> 00:26:33,467 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, no, no, no. It's a lot different than that now.

00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:35,407 [Speaker 2]

I was gonna say, I don't get... Apparently, I'm playing doctor all day 'cause I mean-

00:26:35,407 --> 00:26:36,387 [Speaker 3]

[laughs] We can Google it

00:26:36,387 --> 00:26:36,467 [Speaker 2]

... medically-

00:26:36,467 --> 00:26:37,107 [Speaker 3]

We can Google it.

00:26:37,107 --> 00:26:37,567 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:26:37,567 --> 00:26:43,207 [Speaker 3]

But that is my biggest concern. Also, uh, if we wanna talk about s- a couple of curses for

Saquan.

00:26:43,207 --> 00:26:43,547 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:26:43,547 --> 00:26:46,207 [Speaker 3]

Uh, my guy was on the Madden cover this year.

00:26:46,207 --> 00:26:46,687 [Speaker 2]

Tough.

00:26:46,687 --> 00:26:49,407 [Speaker 3]

Uh, it's... We've seen what it's done to running backs.

00:26:49,407 --> 00:26:52,927 [Speaker 1]

Who was on the Madden cover last year?

00:26:52,927 --> 00:26:53,267 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:54,047 [Speaker 2]

Mm.

00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:54,167 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

00:26:54,167 --> 00:26:54,927 [Speaker 2]

Was it Josh Allen?

00:26:54,927 --> 00:26:55,107 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

00:26:55,107 --> 00:26:55,867 [Speaker 2]

It was Josh Allen.

00:26:55,867 --> 00:26:55,967 [Speaker 3]

Was it Josh Allen?

00:26:55,967 --> 00:26:57,287 [Speaker 2]

It was Josh Allen. Yeah, yeah.

00:26:57,287 --> 00:26:59,187 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, and he had a pretty dang good year.

00:26:59,187 --> 00:26:59,307 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, he had-

00:26:59,307 --> 00:26:59,767 [Speaker 3]

So like I said-

00:26:59,767 --> 00:27:00,127 [Speaker 2]

... MVP

00:27:00,127 --> 00:27:01,407 [Speaker 3]

... I could be, I could be wrong, but-

00:27:01,407 --> 00:27:03,647 [Speaker 1]

But Christian was before that00:

27:03,647 --> 00:27:03,847 [Speaker 3]

And i-

00:27:03,847 --> 00:27:04,667 [Speaker 1]

... and he was hurt.

00:27:04,667 --> 00:27:05,307 [Speaker 3]

And he was, so-

00:27:05,307 --> 00:27:06,727 [Speaker 1]

Are we, are we sure that-

00:27:06,727 --> 00:27:09,367 [Speaker 3]

And he, and he wa- Christian, hey, hey, thanks Mike for-

00:27:09,367 --> 00:27:09,787 [Speaker 1]

Gotcha, gotcha

00:27:09,787 --> 00:27:13,727 [Speaker 3]

... uh, Christian was also the offensive player of the year that year. And there's been a-

00:27:13,727 --> 00:27:14,707 [Speaker 2]

Last year was actually Christian McCaffrey.

00:27:14,707 --> 00:27:17,507 [Speaker 1]

I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure last year was Christian McCaffrey-

00:27:17,507 --> 00:27:17,527 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm

00:27:17,527 --> 00:27:18,687 [Speaker 1]

... on the Madden cover.

00:27:18,687 --> 00:27:19,087 [Speaker 2]

Yep.

00:27:19,087 --> 00:27:19,527 [Speaker 1]

And, and we've seen what happened.

00:27:19,527 --> 00:27:20,707 [Speaker 2]

Maybe Josh Allen was the year before.

00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:21,447 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:27:21,447 --> 00:27:21,467 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

00:27:21,467 --> 00:27:38,687 [Speaker 3]

Uh, so anyways, that's really my only concern. And it's not, it's not that I think... I think he's still

going to be potentially a top five, top ten running back. Should be top five. My issue is that he's

being taken first overall or second or third in the first round of drafts

00:27:38,687 --> 00:27:43,367 [Speaker 3]

over younger running backs that don't have the usage that he does.

00:27:43,367 --> 00:27:43,707 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

00:27:43,707 --> 00:27:47,447 [Speaker 3]

So, I, it's... For me, it's just where he's being picked and the value.

00:27:47,447 --> 00:27:50,227 [Speaker 2]

I've, I've been calling him Saquon this whole off season.

00:27:50,227 --> 00:27:50,587 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:56,967 [Speaker 2]

He's the safest guy to me. Uh, look, that offensive line is still so good. That offense is still so

good.

00:27:56,967 --> 00:27:57,347 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:27:57,347 --> 00:28:19,927 [Speaker 2]

He's gonna have so many scoring opportunities. I know Jalen Hurts takes away from the... With

the twist push at the one. At... For me, uh, yeah, he's... I don't expect him to get 2,000, but if he

goes out and gets me 1,500 total yards. And not rushing, just total yards, and let's say clo- 10

to 15 touchdowns, to me that's just a safe bet. I just... I know Bijan is the number one running

back in most people's eyes right now.

00:28:19,927 --> 00:28:20,087 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:28:20,087 --> 00:28:25,247 [Speaker 2]

I just don't know how many touchdowns he's gonna score. And I think they're... Saquon and

Bijan are probably gonna be similar in yards.

00:28:25,247 --> 00:28:25,767 [Speaker 3]

Bijan.

00:28:25,767 --> 00:28:26,187 [Speaker 2]

Bijan.

00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:27,067 [Speaker 3]

Bijan, sorry.

00:28:27,067 --> 00:28:27,527 [Speaker 2]

Bijan, Bija-

00:28:27,527 --> 00:28:32,267 [Speaker 3]

Sorry. So Saquon to me is the safest bet. He has

00:28:32,267 --> 00:28:36,087 [Speaker 3]

arguably the best offensive line in the league. Uh, they ha- y- you've00:

28:36,087 --> 00:28:47,767 [Speaker 2]

It's one of the top three for sure. You're gonna put eight in the box, but there's also times where

you can't because you have Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith. So, uh, this offense

just is dangerous. This is coming from a Cowboys fan who hates the Eagles.

00:28:47,767 --> 00:28:48,067 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:54,267 [Speaker 2]

To me, Saquon's the safest pick. And I... If I had the number one pick in most drafts, I would

take him number one.

00:28:54,267 --> 00:28:55,307 [Speaker 1]

I wanna drop a quick note.

00:28:55,307 --> 00:28:56,667 [Speaker 3]

Over Chase?

00:28:56,667 --> 00:29:01,147 [Speaker 2]

Yes. Yeah, I will say this. In... Well,

00:29:01,147 --> 00:29:01,547 [Speaker 2]

I... Okay.

00:29:01,547 --> 00:29:02,167 [Speaker 3]

Over Chase-

00:29:02,167 --> 00:29:02,647 [Speaker 2]

Nate... Okay

00:29:02,647 --> 00:29:04,547 [Speaker 3]

... on the best offense in the world?

00:29:04,547 --> 00:29:10,927 [Speaker 2]

Mocking lately. I wi- I'm actually leaning towards receivers in the early because I love the

running backs in the second and third rounds.

00:29:10,927 --> 00:29:11,447 [Speaker 3]

Sure, sure.

00:29:11,447 --> 00:29:13,827 [Speaker 2]

So I would probably go Chase one but Saquon two-

00:29:13,827 --> 00:29:13,847 [Speaker 3]

Okay

00:29:13,847 --> 00:29:15,727 [Speaker 2]

... and he's be my RB1.

00:29:15,727 --> 00:29:18,207 [Speaker 3]

Okay, and I think he is. I think he is an RB1.

00:29:18,207 --> 00:29:18,407 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:29:18,407 --> 00:29:23,767 [Speaker 3]

I'm just... I'm concerned about the year last year versus, like, what's coming this year, and I-

00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:23,787 [Speaker 2]

Yeah

00:29:23,787 --> 00:29:30,407 [Speaker 3]

... I... Part of me just wants to be not that. Like Christian McCaffery, how do you feel about

Christian McCaffery?

00:29:30,407 --> 00:29:31,907 [Speaker 2]

Saquon does have a injury history too.

00:29:31,907 --> 00:29:33,407 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm, for sure.

00:29:33,407 --> 00:29:36,867 [Speaker 1]

So they brought in AJ Dillon, okay?

00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:37,547 [Speaker 2]

Mm.

00:29:37,547 --> 00:29:49,207 [Speaker 1]

But they also played... I know, but they also played AJ Dillon this final preseason game and

didn't play Will Shipley. So it almost feels like Will Shipley is the backup to Saquon which is kind

of a trip.

00:29:49,207 --> 00:29:49,687 [Speaker 2]

I can see that.

00:29:49,687 --> 00:29:54,967 [Speaker 1]

And he's had, he's had a really good preseason, so my quick little nugget on Saquon 'cause I...

00:29:54,967 --> 00:30:06,927 [Speaker 1]

It's tough for them to repeat. Will you get hurt? Whatever, that's... We... Like you said, we're

gonna say that about everyone on the list. But my quick little nugget on Saquon would be, if

you do take Saquon,

00:30:06,927 --> 00:30:10,227 [Speaker 1]

Will Shipley's not a bad end of draft pick for you.

00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:10,447 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:30:10,447 --> 00:30:21,187 [Speaker 1]

And I... He's probably going undrafted right now, but he's a good handcuff t- for you to have.

So, and I, I'm not sure AJ Dillon even affects... He's like the B-Rob CMC situation.

00:30:22,203 --> 00:30:25,323 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, I mean you gotta have depth at the running back position, I don't care what team you

are.

00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,363 [Speaker 1]

What was it that you said?

00:30:27,363 --> 00:30:31,564 [Speaker 1]

No... To run an NFL team, you need to have multiple running... In the group chat. And then-

00:30:31,564 --> 00:30:33,044 [Speaker 2]

Oh yeah, they were like, yeah-

00:30:33,044 --> 00:30:46,424 [Speaker 1]

W- we got B-Rob, so C-M-C is hurt. And I was like, man, this is the NFL no, no team runs one

back in the NFL. You, you gotta have, gotta have backups at that position that can come in and

carry the load 'cause they can go down at any moment. And then-

00:30:46,424 --> 00:30:49,643 [Speaker 2]

mean,I they, they're the most used player on the field really.

00:30:49,643 --> 00:30:53,423 [Speaker 1]

And then John in the group chat said the Eagles would like to have a word. And look, we're

talking about the Eagles.

00:30:53,423 --> 00:30:54,403 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, everybody's got them.

00:30:54,403 --> 00:30:55,884 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:30:55,884 --> 00:30:58,143 [Speaker 3]

You gotta have multiple, for sure.

00:30:58,143 --> 00:31:01,683 [Speaker 1]

My favorite, round two, we're moving on to round two.

00:31:01,683 --> 00:31:02,404 [Speaker 2]

Oh, we're going round two?

00:31:02,404 --> 00:31:03,443 [Speaker 1]

We're going to round two?

00:31:03,443 --> 00:31:04,203 [Speaker 3]

Let's do it. Let's do it. My f-

00:31:04,203 --> 00:31:06,523 [Speaker 1]

How do you, how do you guys feel after round one?

00:31:06,523 --> 00:31:09,703 [Speaker 3]

Some heated discussion there, I thought. Not too bad.

00:31:09,703 --> 00:31:14,243 [Speaker 2]

Brown one is always probably like the... I mean how do you have a bad pick in round one?

00:31:14,243 --> 00:31:14,384 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

00:31:14,384 --> 00:31:15,623 [Speaker 2]

They're all g- They're all good.

00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:15,803 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:31:15,803 --> 00:31:17,103 [Speaker 2]

You know, we're just, we're nitpicking here.

00:31:17,103 --> 00:31:19,763 [Speaker 1]

No, you can have a bad pick in round one, it's Ashton Ginty.

00:31:19,763 --> 00:31:20,124 [Speaker 2]

Oh my God.

00:31:20,124 --> 00:31:21,403 [Speaker 3]

It was Christian McCaffrey last year. [laughs]

00:31:21,403 --> 00:31:24,083 [Speaker 2]

Okay, who, who was your favorite in round two so we can talk about ex- how bad he is?

00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:29,144 [Speaker 1]

Okay, my, my favorite round two... And actually Gabe will, uh, probably say how bad he is.

00:31:29,144 --> 00:31:29,603 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:31:29,603 --> 00:31:43,023 [Speaker 1]

Um, is one young Bucky Irving. This has been a really tough one for me. I had him last year. He

was fantastic. He was drafted, I think, like, in the 13th round. Gabe was saying his ADP fell in

that range last year. He was a second half hero.

00:31:43,023 --> 00:31:43,923 [Speaker 2]

Did you draft him?

00:31:43,923 --> 00:31:44,963 [Speaker 1]

Oh no, I traded for him.

00:31:44,963 --> 00:31:45,523 [Speaker 2]

I was gonna say-

00:31:45,523 --> 00:31:45,683 [Speaker 1]

Um-

00:31:45,683 --> 00:31:47,003 [Speaker 2]

... most people that had him did not draft him.

00:31:47,003 --> 00:31:55,983 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Um, I traded for him, but he was a second half hero. His stats were absolutely bananas

the back half of last season.

00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:56,924 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:31:56,924 --> 00:32:09,143 [Speaker 1]

For me, there's some worry about Rashad White still there. There's some worry about some

regression. There's some worry about was that like a flash in the pan? I have all those worries,

but every single time I put my head down at night-

00:32:09,143 --> 00:32:10,023 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:32:10,023 --> 00:32:13,043 [Speaker 1]

... and I say, "Hey fantasy gods,

00:32:13,043 --> 00:32:31,763 [Speaker 1]

is there a way that Bucky Irving doesn't do what he did the last half of last season?" The answer

has been not likely. He's gonna repeat. And I say, "Okay, fantasy gods, I hear you." So it's just a

gut feeling for me. Uh, I have all those worries, concerns. They make sense,

00:32:31,763 --> 00:32:36,943 [Speaker 1]

but I, I think he is that guy. That's it. I mean, it's a gut feel for me on this one.

00:32:36,943 --> 00:32:40,063 [Speaker 2]

I'll let Aaron go 'cause I already, everyone knows how I feel about Bucky.

00:32:40,063 --> 00:33:14,083 [Speaker 3]

So, uh, I, I like him. I don't, I don't love him as, uh, RB1. And the only reason I say that is 'cause

I, I need to see him carry the ball 300 times to see if he holds up now. He is explosive. He's one

of the most explosive players at his position, in my opinion. And he's, he can catch the ball. I

think he might almost be a better receiving threat than he is as a runner. I mean, he's, he's

very explosive. I question a little bit of whether that was Baker's best year ever.

00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:14,323 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:33:14,323 --> 00:33:16,083 [Speaker 3]

And if he's gonna

00:33:16,083 --> 00:33:19,303 [Speaker 3]

be that efficient again to get the ball out the way that he did.

00:33:19,303 --> 00:33:19,803 [Speaker 2]

Mm.

00:33:19,803 --> 00:33:21,383 [Speaker 3]

Um,

00:33:21,383 --> 00:33:26,923 [Speaker 3]

but I do like Bucky, and if you want him, I think you're gonna have to take him in that-

00:33:26,923 --> 00:33:26,943 [Speaker 2]

For sure

00:33:26,943 --> 00:33:30,523 [Speaker 3]

... in that space. And, and where it is,

00:33:30,523 --> 00:33:33,043 [Speaker 3]

I mean, there, there aren't

00:33:33,043 --> 00:33:39,343 [Speaker 3]

too many other running backs in that range that I would rather have, I think. You know, I mean,

if, if I,

00:33:39,343 --> 00:33:45,463 [Speaker 3]

if I really look at the list, you've got Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor.

00:33:45,463 --> 00:33:46,443 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, he's currently 19-

00:33:46,443 --> 00:33:48,323 [Speaker 3]

Chase Brown, Kyren Williams.

00:33:48,323 --> 00:33:48,443 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:49,643 [Speaker 3]

So I know how Gabe feels.

00:33:49,643 --> 00:33:51,123 [Speaker 1]

Yep. Chase Brown would be a hell of a player.

00:33:51,123 --> 00:33:54,323 [Speaker 3]

Right? I, I think there are a couple of guys that I would take over him.

00:33:54,323 --> 00:33:54,583 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

00:33:54,583 --> 00:34:00,503 [Speaker 3]

But, um, I don't see anybody taking snaps away from him, at least right now. So I like it.

00:34:00,503 --> 00:34:19,363 [Speaker 2]

So I'll, I'll, I, I chimed in. I'm... Look, I like Bucky, but to me he's more of a third. I would love him

in the fourth, but that's not gonna happen. So he would be more of a third round pick where I'm

comfortable taking him. Now, this is the thing, Liam Coen leaves. He goes to Jacksonville as a

coach. I think he was a great offense play caller and coordinator.

00:34:19,363 --> 00:34:19,563 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:34:19,563 --> 00:34:30,763 [Speaker 2]

And I think that takes away from this offense. Mike Evans is getting a little older. Chris Godwin's

hurt. He's not gonna start the season. He's gonna miss a couple games. You're relying on

Emeka Egbuca, who people love and he's a, but he's a rookie.

00:34:30,763 --> 00:34:31,563 [Speaker 3]

He looks good.

00:34:31,563 --> 00:34:32,443 [Speaker 2]

But he's a rookie.

00:34:32,443 --> 00:34:32,703 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:34:32,703 --> 00:34:37,463 [Speaker 2]

I, I, I have my concerns about rookies sometimes. Um,

00:34:37,463 --> 00:34:42,183 [Speaker 2]

I just don't think he's gonna be able to perform like he did. He averaged 5.4 yards a carry.

00:34:42,183 --> 00:34:42,503 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:34:42,503 --> 00:34:45,443 [Speaker 2]

He caught 47 balls out of 52 targets.

00:34:45,443 --> 00:34:45,803 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

00:34:45,803 --> 00:34:54,623 [Speaker 2]

He's not gonna have that catch rate again. I'm sorry. I, I can't get behind that. I, I worry about

smaller running backs too having such a big share load.

00:34:54,623 --> 00:34:56,443 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm. That's why I started with the carries.

00:34:56,443 --> 00:34:56,603 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:34:56,603 --> 00:34:59,063 [Speaker 3]

Because he only had 200 carries last year 'cause he didn't have a full-

00:34:59,063 --> 00:34:59,283 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, 207

00:34:59,283 --> 00:35:00,263 [Speaker 3]

... full start of the season.

00:35:00,263 --> 00:35:08,363 [Speaker 2]

Correct. So, but I don't think he's the workhorse. And then also there's love... The Buccaneers

love Sean Tucker too. That's the RB3.

00:35:08,363 --> 00:35:08,583 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:35:08,583 --> 00:35:09,383 [Speaker 2]

That's kinda dope.

00:35:09,383 --> 00:35:11,963 [Speaker 3]

You, you might get... Like, Rashad White might just fade out.

00:35:11,963 --> 00:35:12,403 [Speaker 2]

He's already out-

00:35:12,403 --> 00:35:12,803 [Speaker 3]

... and Sean Tucker.

00:35:12,803 --> 00:35:13,523 [Speaker 2]

... in my opinion.

00:35:13,523 --> 00:35:13,923 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:35:13,923 --> 00:35:18,003 [Speaker 2]

I, I, I think this is another team that wants to do like a three running back committee.

00:35:18,003 --> 00:35:18,263 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:35:18,263 --> 00:35:24,723 [Speaker 2]

I just don't see Bucky doing what he did last year, and I don't see him averaging that and then

catching those amount of balls with that many targets.

00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:31,103 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. I mean, sometimes it's okay to just say like, "That might be him." Though, I get it.

00:35:31,103 --> 00:35:31,283 [Speaker 2]

But I need one-

00:35:31,283 --> 00:35:32,163 [Speaker 1]

It's only been one season.

00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:32,803 [Speaker 2]

Give me one more year.

00:35:32,803 --> 00:35:32,823 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:32,823 --> 00:35:34,203 [Speaker 2]

If he does it again, I will sit here and say, "I was wrong."

00:35:34,203 --> 00:35:35,703 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. You need a larger sample size. Yep.

00:35:35,703 --> 00:35:35,723 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:35:35,723 --> 00:35:41,283 [Speaker 3]

And that's my concern with, with Baker running the show and the efficiency of that offense, is,

is the change.

00:35:41,283 --> 00:35:41,403 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:35:41,403 --> 00:35:48,343 [Speaker 3]

And I, I just, uh, I'd like to see it again, but if I can get Bucky in the right spot, I w- I would... I'd

love to have him see what happens.

00:35:48,343 --> 00:35:53,383 [Speaker 1]

I will say rushing wise this preseason, Bucky's not doing me any favors. Eight carries for 12

yards.

00:35:53,383 --> 00:35:54,703 [Speaker 3]

I mean, don't look at preseason-

00:35:54,703 --> 00:35:54,743 [Speaker 1]

I know. I know. [laughs]

00:35:54,743 --> 00:35:55,883 [Speaker 3]

... rushing stats, sir.

00:35:55,883 --> 00:35:56,763 [Speaker 2]

What a bust.

00:35:56,763 --> 00:35:57,303 [Speaker 3]

Oh my God.

00:35:57,303 --> 00:35:59,943 [Speaker 2]

No, he's done. Put a, put a lid on him.

00:35:59,943 --> 00:36:03,463 [Speaker 3]

Who we got next for our favorite second round?

00:36:03,463 --> 00:36:09,083 [Speaker 2]

S- So that's gonna be me. Um, and this man helped me win a fantasy football championship last

year, so I might be a little biased.

00:36:09,083 --> 00:36:10,123 [Speaker 3]

He helped a lot of people.

00:36:10,123 --> 00:36:44,188 [Speaker 2]

He did. And that's one Kyren Williams. And that's because of where he's going. He's going at

the end of round two. Every year... Look, we did this last year when they drafted Blake Corum.

"Oh, Blake Corum's gonna come in and take snaps from Kyren Williams." He did not. It wasn't

even, uh, Blake Corum. It was, uh, Pri- uh, Rivers. He didn't... They drafted another running

back this year.And I don't think you have to worry about him either. People were concerned

when he was announced the kick returner. People, "Oh, Kyron's returning kicks. He's not gonna

be..." Kyron ended up being a top 10 running back and I got him in the first pick of the second

round. And now, he's fallen to the second round at the end.

00:36:44,188 --> 00:36:44,707 [Speaker 1]

The end.

00:36:44,707 --> 00:37:33,907 [Speaker 2]

I don't understand why. I... Well, okay. I understand fantasy football's all... It's a young man's

game. We get excited about these young guys coming up. But for me, I want the guys who are

proven. And this guy's done it for two or three years in a row now. I know what I'm gonna get

out of Kyron Williams. People are worried about the touchdowns, but I think this is an efficient

offense and they're gonna score a lot of points. Matthew Stafford, Puka Nacua, Davante Adams.

They're going to score probably close to 20 points or more every game. So, I'm not concerned.

He also has a very r- easy running back schedule. I know that's hard because it's preseason.

We're going based off last year. Eh, people are gonna get worse or better. So that's whatever.

But Kyron Williams is proven to me. He's one of the better running backs in the league. He just

got an extension. They're not gonna pay him that if they think... If they're gonna do a running

back by committee. He is the workhorse for me in this offense.

00:37:33,907 --> 00:37:49,587 [Speaker 1]

He had 14 touchdowns last year, rushing. Two in the air. 12 rushing touchdowns the year prior,

three in the air. So, 16 last year, 15 total the year prior. Finished RB6 in both those years. And

he's just being disrespected.

00:37:49,587 --> 00:37:50,267 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:51,967 [Speaker 1]

That's it. I mean, plain

00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:54,607 [Speaker 2]

I love me some Ky- I'll take Kyron Williams again. So-

00:37:54,607 --> 00:37:57,527 [Speaker 3]

I, I don't... I like the take. I don't think you have to worry about Kyron Williams.

00:37:57,527 --> 00:37:58,047 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:37:58,047 --> 00:38:02,847 [Speaker 3]

Uh, I think the reason... Um, I mean, is Matthew Stafford gonna play football? Is that gonna

happen?

00:38:02,847 --> 00:38:02,887 [Speaker 1]

He-

00:38:02,887 --> 00:38:03,027 [Speaker 2]

I-

00:38:03,027 --> 00:38:03,667 [Speaker 3]

He's practicing.

00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:04,547 [Speaker 1]

So he's back at it-

00:38:04,547 --> 00:38:04,767 [Speaker 3]

Okay. Okay

00:38:04,767 --> 00:38:06,467 [Speaker 1]

... and actually took practice reps-

00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:06,487 [Speaker 3]

Okay

00:38:06,487 --> 00:38:07,927 [Speaker 1]

... like live team reps and stuff.

00:38:07,927 --> 00:38:09,107 [Speaker 3]

Okay. So that makes me feel a little bit better.

00:38:09,107 --> 00:38:10,467 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Now, seeing the clips-

00:38:10,467 --> 00:38:11,667 [Speaker 3]

W- we'd like Matthew Stafford to play.

00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:15,867 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Seeing the clips, he does look, uh, stiff. Like-

00:38:15,867 --> 00:38:15,927 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm

00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:17,867 [Speaker 1]

... it's a little worrisome. I'm worried like-

00:38:17,867 --> 00:38:17,887 [Speaker 2]

I mean-

00:38:17,887 --> 00:38:19,167 [Speaker 1]

... what's gonna happen when he gets hit.

00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:21,367 [Speaker 3]

All he has to do is hand it off to the right or hand it off to the left.

00:38:21,367 --> 00:38:21,447 [Speaker 2]

True.

00:38:21,447 --> 00:38:22,227 [Speaker 3]

You know what I mean? He's gonna be okay.

00:38:22,227 --> 00:38:25,027 [Speaker 2]

He's got two weeks to... He's just getting back into it.

00:38:25,027 --> 00:38:25,147 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:38:25,147 --> 00:38:25,567 [Speaker 2]

He'll be fine.

00:38:25,567 --> 00:38:36,467 [Speaker 3]

So I like Kyron. The reason the hate comes is because of the analytics. Hi- his, his efficiency

stats, like if you look at fantasy, he is a volume player.

00:38:36,467 --> 00:38:37,007 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:38:37,007 --> 00:38:48,787 [Speaker 3]

This was my jainty argument to Al. He gets the ball so many times that even if he doesn't have

the greatest yards per carry or explosiveness, as long as he gets his carries, he will be an RB1.

00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:51,827 [Speaker 2]

316 carries. Shout out to Stone Cold Steve Austin. [laughs]

00:38:51,827 --> 00:38:54,387 [Speaker 1]

[laughs] 4.1 yards per carry last year.

00:38:54,387 --> 00:38:54,727 [Speaker 3]

He, he was-

00:38:54,727 --> 00:38:55,767 [Speaker 2]

His average did come down.

00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:59,327 [Speaker 3]

He will get his numbers as long as he is getting the ball.

00:38:59,327 --> 00:38:59,347 [Speaker 2]

Yep.

00:38:59,347 --> 00:39:11,667 [Speaker 3]

And I think that's, that's why, you know, they're worried about other people coming in, because

he's just... He's not the most explosive or efficient player when you watch him. And I think

that's kind of where some of the hate comes from. But you can't deny his production.

00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:17,787 [Speaker 2]

I think to be a great fantasy manager too, you have to read the signs of it. Like they extended

him two years. I think it was-

00:39:17,787 --> 00:39:17,807 [Speaker 3]

Yes

00:39:17,807 --> 00:39:18,927 [Speaker 2]

... 20 or four-

00:39:18,927 --> 00:39:19,227 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

00:39:19,227 --> 00:39:20,447 [Speaker 2]

Something like that. I can't remember the end of the number.

00:39:20,447 --> 00:39:21,447 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, no, they paid him.

00:39:21,447 --> 00:39:24,387 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. How do you not confidently draft a player who just got-

00:39:24,387 --> 00:39:24,567 [Speaker 2]

In what?

00:39:24,567 --> 00:39:25,567 [Speaker 3]

... paid at his position, right? Absolutely.

00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:28,167 [Speaker 2]

Why are you gonna pay one of the highest running backs if you're not gonna give him-

00:39:28,167 --> 00:39:28,727 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not play him.

00:39:28,727 --> 00:39:33,607 [Speaker 3]

And I will say too, he's in a Sean McVay offense, and Sean is gonna find ways to get the ball

down the field.

00:39:33,607 --> 00:39:33,707 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:39:33,707 --> 00:39:34,307 [Speaker 3]

So-

00:39:34,307 --> 00:39:34,387 [Speaker 2]

Yep

00:39:34,387 --> 00:39:42,287 [Speaker 3]

... I mean, you have to be fairly confident in him in that. He's not somebody who you're gonna

dr- A lot of people will pass because they want the ceiling.

00:39:42,287 --> 00:39:44,167 [Speaker 3]

Kyron's ceiling is you know what you're g-

00:39:44,167 --> 00:39:44,187 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

00:39:44,187 --> 00:39:45,387 [Speaker 3]

Like he said, you know what you're gonna get.

00:39:45,387 --> 00:39:45,467 [Speaker 2]

Yep.

00:39:45,467 --> 00:39:52,787 [Speaker 3]

So you, you, you kind of have to be okay with knowing that this player's gonna be what he is.

He's not gonna go to the upper echelon of...

00:39:52,787 --> 00:39:53,347 [Speaker 2]

He's another-

00:39:53,347 --> 00:39:53,367 [Speaker 3]

Yeah

00:39:53,367 --> 00:39:53,987 [Speaker 2]

... safe pick.

00:39:53,987 --> 00:39:54,447 [Speaker 3]

Correct.

00:39:54,447 --> 00:39:54,647 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

00:39:54,647 --> 00:39:54,727 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

00:39:54,727 --> 00:39:54,867 [Speaker 3]

Correct.

00:39:54,867 --> 00:39:57,407 [Speaker 1]

RB6 both years. You know what he's getting. Steady, consistent-

00:39:57,407 --> 00:39:57,527 [Speaker 2]

Yep

00:39:57,527 --> 00:40:01,287 [Speaker 1]

... touchdowns. They, they don't go to anyone else around the goal line. Him.

00:40:01,287 --> 00:40:04,307 [Speaker 3]

Yep. Yep. Unless Stafford wants to run one in, you know?

00:40:04,307 --> 00:40:05,087 [Speaker 1]

Could you imagine?

00:40:05,087 --> 00:40:06,007 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:40:06,007 --> 00:40:08,747 [Speaker 1]

Second round favorite pick for you, Aaron?

00:40:08,747 --> 00:40:11,827 [Speaker 3]

Okay, so my second round favorite is Nico Collins.

00:40:11,827 --> 00:40:13,967 [Speaker 1]

I love both your guys' second round favorite, by the way.

00:40:13,967 --> 00:40:14,847 [Speaker 2]

Oh. [laughs] Love them both.

00:40:14,847 --> 00:40:14,867 [Speaker 3]

Love, love them both.

00:40:14,867 --> 00:40:16,087 [Speaker 2]

I mean, we all... Yeah.

00:40:16,087 --> 00:40:52,107 [Speaker 3]

Love Nico Collins. Uh, just got him in our Dynasty draft. Uh, super happy about that. And I

mean, the guy is awesome. I mean, just the eye test watching him play, uh, at receiver, he's

unbelievable. Uh, his feet, his hands, how a- aggressive he is. Uh, he is a really fun player to

watch. And so I'm banking on him and CJ having a full healthy year together and just him

balling out. I could see Nico as a top three receiver. And you can get... Virtually get him in the

second round in most drafts.

00:40:52,107 --> 00:40:53,047 [Speaker 1]

Top-

00:40:53,047 --> 00:41:00,247 [Speaker 3]

I almost think he's a little like talent level disrespected in the way that he's drafted just because

he didn't have a full year last year.

00:41:00,247 --> 00:41:00,987 [Speaker 1]

Disrespected.

00:41:00,987 --> 00:41:06,567 [Speaker 3]

Last year he played 12 games, still finished as the number 23 receiver-

00:41:06,567 --> 00:41:06,887 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:41:06,887 --> 00:41:07,667 [Speaker 3]

... in fantasy.

00:41:07,667 --> 00:41:08,467 [Speaker 1]

That's crazy.

00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:12,267 [Speaker 3]

Had 1,008 yards and seven touchdowns.

00:41:12,267 --> 00:41:12,447 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

00:41:12,447 --> 00:41:13,687 [Speaker 3]

In 12 games.

00:41:13,687 --> 00:41:16,967 [Speaker 1]

68 receptions. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

00:41:16,967 --> 00:41:23,207 [Speaker 3]

So to me, he is a guy where you could get great value in a second round, and I think he should

be a first round pick.

00:41:23,207 --> 00:41:29,987 [Speaker 1]

Something that I saw a lot last year, having drafted Nico Collins, I was watching a lot of Texans.

00:41:29,987 --> 00:41:37,167 [Speaker 1]

Every time CJ Stroud goes back and gets in a little bit of trouble, that ball is going in the

direction of 12, 'cause he's like-

00:41:37,167 --> 00:41:37,247 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

00:41:37,247 --> 00:41:40,507 [Speaker 1]

... "I'm gonna put it up there. He's gonna hopefully get it for me, 'cause I'm about-"

00:41:40,507 --> 00:41:40,567 [Speaker 3]

Yes

00:41:40,567 --> 00:41:43,127 [Speaker 1]

"... to get sacked." And that is-

00:41:43,127 --> 00:41:43,627 [Speaker 3]

They also-

00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:45,407 [Speaker 1]

... hugely crucial. It's opportunity.

00:41:45,407 --> 00:41:59,327 [Speaker 3]

... did get some... They have... Obviously, Tank Dell is injured and they, they have some

injuries, but they did go get him some help. There are other receiving options, maybe not as

proven. Um, but I- I'm looking for CJ to have a bounce, bounce-back year and Nico to reap the

benefits of that.

00:41:59,327 --> 00:42:05,147 [Speaker 2]

Just to support you, wide receiver nine on average last year. So average points per game, he

was number nine.

00:42:05,147 --> 00:42:05,427 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:42:05,427 --> 00:42:05,827 [Speaker 3]

Crazy.

00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:07,807 [Speaker 2]

I think we all love Nico. There's nothing more to say.

00:42:07,807 --> 00:42:07,927 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

00:42:07,927 --> 00:42:08,447 [Speaker 2]

He's, he's a-

00:42:08,447 --> 00:42:08,467 [Speaker 3]

Nico's awesome.

00:42:08,467 --> 00:42:09,327 [Speaker 2]

... he's a freak of nature.

00:42:09,327 --> 00:42:09,787 [Speaker 1]

Yep. Nico.

00:42:09,787 --> 00:42:12,067 [Speaker 2]

I mean, I wi- I wanna see him stay healthy for a whole year.

00:42:12,067 --> 00:42:12,447 [Speaker 1]

An absolute-

00:42:12,447 --> 00:42:12,727 [Speaker 3]

Yes, please

00:42:12,727 --> 00:42:14,827 [Speaker 1]

... freak of nature. Yeah, please.

00:42:14,827 --> 00:42:15,987 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:42:15,987 --> 00:42:16,767 [Speaker 1]

I got a question.

00:42:16,767 --> 00:42:17,487 [Speaker 2]

Yep.

00:42:17,487 --> 00:42:21,867 [Speaker 1]

Would you take Nico Collins over Christian McCaffrey?

00:42:21,867 --> 00:42:22,247 [Speaker 2]

No.

00:42:22,247 --> 00:42:23,927 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:42:23,927 --> 00:42:24,287 [Speaker 1]

No.

00:42:24,287 --> 00:42:24,527 [Speaker 3]

I would.

00:42:24,527 --> 00:42:27,067 [Speaker 2]

I would prefer Nico over Christian McCaffrey, but I-

00:42:27,067 --> 00:42:28,267 [Speaker 3]

In, in Dynasty, I would.

00:42:28,267 --> 00:42:29,727 [Speaker 1]

But I couldn't- No, I'm talking about... I'm saying-

00:42:29,727 --> 00:42:29,767 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:42:29,767 --> 00:42:30,847 [Speaker 1]

... I couldn't take him. No.

00:42:30,847 --> 00:42:31,807 [Speaker 2]

You wouldn't take him in the back end?

00:42:31,807 --> 00:42:35,611 [Speaker 1]

Because you can wait.You mean on... Oh, the back end of round one?

00:42:35,611 --> 00:42:36,151 [Speaker 2]

I mean, it's a round one-

00:42:36,151 --> 00:42:39,031 [Speaker 1]

Um, so that is an actual debate, I would say.

00:42:39,031 --> 00:42:44,332 [Speaker 2]

I- see, I... Again, same thing with my... whatever, whoever was take, I would rather have Nico.

00:42:44,332 --> 00:42:44,491 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:42:44,491 --> 00:42:55,371 [Speaker 2]

But I couldn't ta- like if I'm sitting at eight and Christian McCaffrey's there, I just ha- I have to

take him, unfortunately. It was like last year at two, I didn't want to take Christian McCaffrey,

but I fucking had to. [laughs] Like-

00:42:55,371 --> 00:42:55,391 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:42:55,391 --> 00:42:56,711 [Speaker 2]

How can I pass up Christian McCaffrey?

00:42:56,711 --> 00:43:07,051 [Speaker 1]

It's one of those things where like, I'm pick nine for McCaffrey, uh, if I take Nico... If I take

McCaffrey, Nico probably won't get back to me. So yeah, I'd probably take Nico there.

00:43:07,051 --> 00:43:07,571 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

00:43:07,571 --> 00:43:08,332 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:43:08,332 --> 00:43:18,191 [Speaker 1]

And hope that McCaffrey falls to me. Round two least favorite, that's where we're at. And it's

gonna start with me, and I swear I'm not hating on this team.

00:43:18,191 --> 00:43:19,852 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:43:19,852 --> 00:43:21,871 [Speaker 1]

But we go back to the Las Vegas Raiders.

00:43:21,871 --> 00:43:22,512 [Speaker 3]

It's okay.

00:43:22,512 --> 00:43:23,131 [Speaker 1]

And we go- [laughs]

00:43:23,131 --> 00:43:24,292 [Speaker 3]

I enjoy it. [laughs]

00:43:24,292 --> 00:43:26,111 [Speaker 1]

... to

00:43:26,111 --> 00:43:34,711 [Speaker 1]

a guy who set all sorts of records last year, for tight ends, for franchise, for rookies, all the

things, Brock Bowers.

00:43:34,711 --> 00:43:35,312 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:43:35,312 --> 00:43:37,871 [Speaker 1]

With a new quarterback, new coaching system.

00:43:37,871 --> 00:43:38,651 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:43:38,651 --> 00:43:42,771 [Speaker 1]

Brock may really make me, uh, look terrible for this take, but-

00:43:42,771 --> 00:43:42,792 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

00:43:42,792 --> 00:43:44,752 [Speaker 1]

... for me,

00:43:44,752 --> 00:44:02,152 [Speaker 1]

it's one of those positions that I cannot... It's just the fact that he's a tight end in round two. I

just can't do it. I've never done it in fantasy. I don't think I ever will. I didn't do it when like Kelce

was dominant. I didn't do it with Jimmy Graham. Didn't do it with, uh, like Antonio Gates, you

know, those guys. Gromit-

00:44:02,152 --> 00:44:03,671 [Speaker 3]

You just mean like the best players ever in their position.

00:44:03,671 --> 00:44:04,751 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, correct, correct. I didn't do it.

00:44:04,751 --> 00:44:05,171 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

00:44:05,171 --> 00:44:28,371 [Speaker 1]

You know, I don't take them early. So that, that reason alone is why he's my least favorite.

Nothing against his talent again, just the fact that he's a round two tight end and you're taking

him over guys like Nico Collins, Kyren Williams, Buckets. Like you have to take them over those

position guys. You're kinda giving up wealth at that position for a position that his top...

00:44:28,371 --> 00:44:31,731 [Speaker 1]

He may be the outlier, but his top

00:44:31,731 --> 00:44:45,171 [Speaker 1]

point getting isn't that much better than the 12th best tight end, or 10th best, or sixth best

tight end. When wide receivers and running backs, there's a big drop. We talked about that off

air. There's a bigger drop off, so that's why he's my least favorite, just position alone.

00:44:45,171 --> 00:45:24,291 [Speaker 2]

I'll support you real quick, and I'll let Aaron be the, the, uh, the positive one here. I'm with you.

Uh, he's actually my tight end three, so I would rather have McBride and Kittle over him even. I

unders- no, listen, Brock Bowers is super talented. For me, it's just Geno Smith and Chip Kelly

and Like those three pe- have never utilized a tight end. And I understand Brock Bowers is

probably the most talented tight end that any of them had ever had- have ever had, but it's just

a system thing for me. I'm just not, uh, uh, sold on him as... And again, second round. If he was

in the fourth, I would jump on all of them. But second round for a tight end, it is definitely early.

00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:39,231 [Speaker 3]

I don't love the second round. Uh, f- for, for me, I love Brock Bowers. Uh, I think he's a

phenomenal player. And I think Pete and Chip for sure, so, uh, um, also watch a lot of UCLA

Bruins football. Chip was the head coach for, I think four years.

00:45:39,231 --> 00:45:39,991 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:45:39,991 --> 00:45:51,811 [Speaker 3]

And, um, some very good tight ends over the years on that team and definitely knew how to

use them. So I, I think they will utilize him. He's the best pass catcher on the team.

00:45:51,811 --> 00:46:08,251 [Speaker 3]

So I, I believe they're gonna use him a lot. I think if you like him and he's your guy, you, you

take him where you have to take him if you believe in it. But you need to have a strategy of

how you're going to acquire the other positions and where if you're gonna take a tight end in

round two. Um, but I got nothing bad to say about the guy.

00:46:08,251 --> 00:46:11,331 [Speaker 1]

But would you take him in round two? Would you, personally?

00:46:11,331 --> 00:46:13,911 [Speaker 3]

Um, I... This year, I would not.

00:46:13,911 --> 00:46:14,931 [Speaker 1]

In a redraft league, okay.

00:46:14,931 --> 00:46:15,751 [Speaker 3]

This year, I would not.

00:46:15,751 --> 00:46:19,791 [Speaker 1]

Okay. You need to see a one more year at least before making that commitment, yeah.

00:46:19,791 --> 00:46:22,291 [Speaker 3]

No, it's, it's just where the other players fall.

00:46:22,291 --> 00:46:22,451 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:46:22,451 --> 00:46:25,111 [Speaker 3]

From a, uh, like I- I've...

00:46:25,111 --> 00:46:29,931 [Speaker 3]

I just don't like the team as much depth wise when I take a tight end in the second round.

00:46:29,931 --> 00:46:32,711 [Speaker 1]

You don't wanna give up that good wide receiver, that good running back for a good turn

around.

00:46:32,711 --> 00:46:43,851 [Speaker 3]

Yes, yes. But if, if you... Like I said, if you have a plan for that and you feel good about it and

you think Brock Bowers is gonna be the tight, tight end one, take him. But have your depth in

other places.

00:46:43,851 --> 00:46:50,891 [Speaker 1]

The most obvious least second round... least favorite second round pick goes to Gabe, and who

is it?

00:46:50,891 --> 00:46:54,811 [Speaker 2]

Surprise, surprise, it's Drake London.

00:46:54,811 --> 00:46:55,151 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:46:55,151 --> 00:46:56,851 [Speaker 2]

Listen,

00:46:56,851 --> 00:47:00,991 [Speaker 2]

we... It was probably our most heated argument that we've had on this pod to date.

00:47:00,991 --> 00:47:02,671 [Speaker 1]

I'm trying to keep my blood down over here.

00:47:02,671 --> 00:47:14,671 [Speaker 2]

Uh, I don't under- Listen, again, or I'm gonna go over it. I don't understand the love for it. I've

talked to Drake London owners, and they were just like, "Yeah, he was meh. He was very okay."

Let me give you his weekly finishes real quick throughout the season.

00:47:14,671 --> 00:47:16,891 [Speaker 1]

I thought you were gonna stop at, "I've talked to Drake London."

00:47:16,891 --> 00:47:22,091 [Speaker 2]

Oh, no, no. I, I have not talked to Drake London. That- that... I mean, I would. I'd be, "Hey man,

you need to do better." Anyways-

00:47:22,091 --> 00:47:22,311 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:47:22,311 --> 00:48:10,231 [Speaker 2]

... so his weekly finishes from last season. Week, so I'm gonna go week one in an order,

obviously, week 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 83, 19, 19, 34, 2, 15, 8, 63, 39, 11, 47, bye week, 19, 34, 28, 41,

24. I'm not gonna... He was number one receiver in week 18. Nobody does week 18, like I said.

So... And you're not even playing in the championship if you had Drake London because he

probably didn't get you there. So listen, he's a number... He's a wide receiver too to me, I've

said that. Uh, he's pro- he's third round, but for me, I probably wouldn't even take him to the

fourth round. I just don't get the hype on Drake London. I haven't seen it yet still where like, oh,

he's just so talented. I... He's a, he's a knock off of Mike Evans, I've said this before. I don't love

him as a player.

00:48:10,231 --> 00:48:30,771 [Speaker 2]

Now, could he come out and have a good year? Sure. Let's give Michael Pennix a shot. I'll give

him that. But I don't think Kirk Cousins was bad in the first half of the season, and I just read his

weekly finishes. He had a couple of nice f- finishes in week... Like, you know, two, 15, and eight

in three weeks, but he also had 34, 19, 19, 83 with Kirk Cousins as well, a healthy Kirk Cousins.

00:48:30,771 --> 00:48:33,531 [Speaker 1]

He sounded really... The stats for bye week were crazy.

00:48:33,531 --> 00:48:35,231 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:48:35,231 --> 00:48:52,747 [Speaker 1]

Crazy.Uh, 158 targets, man. That's just really hard to ignore. And I think he gets peppered

again. And Aaron was talking about how... We all talk about it. Opportunity. Fantasy's all about

opportunity. I think the opportunity for Drake is massive this year. That's- that's why I like him

so much.

00:48:52,747 --> 00:49:27,447 [Speaker 2]

One of the things too... And I'm sorry, Aaron. I'll let you go real quick. One of... In fantasy

football, there's so many things I factor in. And also, like, obviously it's fantasy football but I

factor in real football too. I don't think Drake London's good enough to beat cornerback ones.

Like there's some really good lockdown cornerbacks and I don't think he's good enough to beat

some of these cornerbacks. Like, I feel like he's just a... He's a really good wide receiver too. If

you brought... Like, if he brought over Tyree Kill then I'd be like, "Oh, I like Drake London more

now because he's a wide receiver too." He's going to see cornerback twos. He's going to get

probably more opportunities 'cause everyone's going to be looking at Tyree Kill. That's all I'm

saying about Drake London.

00:49:27,447 --> 00:49:40,007 [Speaker 3]

I'm somewhere in the middle. I- I- I like Drake London. I don't love how high you have to draft

him, so I- I will agree with you there. Um, his situation is

00:49:40,007 --> 00:50:06,187 [Speaker 3]

kind of a little bit unsettled or unknown in my opinion. Um, he had... He had a good year last

year for sure. If you add up his stats, he had a good year. If you want to break it down game by

game, I- I get it. Um, I think he will be a productive player. I think he will be a good player. Um,

is he going to reach the elite status of the guys that we've talked about in the first and

beginning of the second round?

00:50:06,187 --> 00:50:13,187 [Speaker 3]

I don't think so. I don't think he has quite the level of talent, like you're saying, Gabe, to get

there. Um,

00:50:13,187 --> 00:50:30,787 [Speaker 3]

but target wise and opportunity, I agree with Al. I think he will definitely have his opportunities.

Let's see what Michael Penix can do, and then I think I'd have a better, you know, take and

understanding. Um, do I like Drake London this year? Yes. Do I want to draft him over Nico

Collins? No.

00:50:30,787 --> 00:50:31,707 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:50:31,707 --> 00:50:31,887 [Speaker 2]

Not for me either.

00:50:31,887 --> 00:50:32,807 [Speaker 3]

So, but you know what I'm saying?

00:50:32,807 --> 00:50:32,827 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:50:32,827 --> 00:50:40,187 [Speaker 3]

If we're talking about second round, I need to get him at the end. Like middle to end, where I

can feel confident in drafting him.

00:50:40,187 --> 00:51:03,547 [Speaker 1]

Let me just run really quick. Three... All three, Yahoo, Sleeper and RT Sports have him as the

number nine wide receiver overall, 17th pick. In front of AJ Brown, Ladd McConkey, Tyree Kill,

JSN, Tee Higgins, Garrett Wilson. Are you taking any of those guys over Drake London?

00:51:03,547 --> 00:51:04,827 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

00:51:04,827 --> 00:51:06,527 [Speaker 1]

Knew that.

00:51:06,527 --> 00:51:09,327 [Speaker 3]

Uh, I think I would consider AJ Brown.

00:51:09,327 --> 00:51:09,707 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

00:51:09,707 --> 00:51:10,687 [Speaker 3]

And Ladd.

00:51:10,687 --> 00:51:11,247 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:51:11,247 --> 00:51:13,767 [Speaker 3]

And who else did you say?

00:51:13,767 --> 00:51:13,947 [Speaker 1]

Tee.

00:51:13,947 --> 00:51:14,887 [Speaker 2]

Tee Higgins.

00:51:14,887 --> 00:51:17,447 [Speaker 1]

Tee Higgins, JSN, Garrett Wilson.

00:51:17,447 --> 00:51:20,627 [Speaker 3]

Love me some JSN. But I also worry about Darnold this year.

00:51:20,627 --> 00:51:20,767 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:51:20,767 --> 00:51:21,587 [Speaker 3]

Got to be honest.

00:51:21,587 --> 00:51:22,067 [Speaker 1]

So, would you take-

00:51:22,067 --> 00:51:24,707 [Speaker 3]

So, those would be the only two that I would consider. Otherwise, yeah.

00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:24,727 [Speaker 1]

Ladd.

00:51:24,727 --> 00:51:25,947 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

00:51:25,947 --> 00:51:26,727 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

00:51:26,727 --> 00:51:27,847 [Speaker 2]

I just don't want to take him.

00:51:27,847 --> 00:51:28,247 [Speaker 1]

I don't-

00:51:28,247 --> 00:51:33,467 [Speaker 3]

Otherwise Otherwise, Drake London, he's gonna... He's gonna be on the field and he's gonna

get you

00:51:33,467 --> 00:51:34,507 [Speaker 3]

10 targets a game.

00:51:34,507 --> 00:51:34,887 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

00:51:34,887 --> 00:51:39,347 [Speaker 3]

I mean, you can't... I mean, that's- that's good production as long as he catches the ball.

00:51:39,347 --> 00:51:40,727 [Speaker 1]

No doubt. No diggity. No doubt.

00:51:40,727 --> 00:51:42,767 [Speaker 2]

He's my flex receiver, I'm happy.

00:51:42,767 --> 00:51:44,607 [Speaker 1]

Wow. There's not a shot. That'd be crazy.

00:51:44,607 --> 00:51:46,587 [Speaker 3]

Look, you- you're just... Gabe's- Gabe's not gonna draft Drake London.

00:51:46,587 --> 00:51:46,787 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:51:46,787 --> 00:51:46,807 [Speaker 2]

Correct. Correct.

00:51:46,807 --> 00:51:47,607 [Speaker 3]

So, we'll just move on.

00:51:47,607 --> 00:51:49,387 [Speaker 2]

I can guarantee you that. Um-

00:51:49,387 --> 00:51:51,447 [Speaker 1]

Are we on a least favorite or we slot-

00:51:51,447 --> 00:51:51,807 [Speaker 3]

Least favorite.

00:51:51,807 --> 00:51:52,707 [Speaker 1]

Least favorite.

00:51:52,707 --> 00:52:04,787 [Speaker 3]

I'm shocked. I see who the player is. I'm shocked to see least favorite. Least favorite second

round. This one was- was a little difficult for me, honestly, because I like him a lot. And my take

is really just because of

00:52:04,787 --> 00:52:11,487 [Speaker 3]

what I think he could do and where he's being drafted. So, my least favorite second round is

Jonathan Taylor.

00:52:11,487 --> 00:52:12,007 [Speaker 1]

Wow.

00:52:12,007 --> 00:52:20,287 [Speaker 3]

Um, great player. Uh, phenomenal player. Love Jonathan Taylor. He does not catch the ball.

00:52:20,287 --> 00:52:43,647 [Speaker 3]

And if- if you're in a standard scoring league, draft Jonathan Taylor in the second round. If

you're in a PPR league, I worry about him and his touches on the field. He's gonna get 300

carries hopefully. Um, they actually have a decent quarterback on that team this year. Daniel

Jones is gonna play quarterback. I don't know, you can say what you want about Daniel Jones.

00:52:43,647 --> 00:52:43,947 [Speaker 2]

Decent.

00:52:43,947 --> 00:52:44,347 [Speaker 1]

Decent, okay.

00:52:44,347 --> 00:53:03,947 [Speaker 3]

But, uh, fantasy, uh, players should be praying and saying thank you to the Lord for Daniel

Jones being the starting quarterback. Because if Anthony Richard- Anthony Richardson was

there, we'd, uh, we'd be hurting. I do, oddly enough, think Daniel Jones actually takes some

rushing touchdown opportunities away from Jonathan Taylor, believe it or not.

00:53:03,947 --> 00:53:04,727 [Speaker 1]

Oh, okay.

00:53:04,727 --> 00:53:06,987 [Speaker 3]

Daniel Jones can run the ball.

00:53:06,987 --> 00:53:07,827 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

00:53:07,827 --> 00:53:11,427 [Speaker 3]

Um, and I think Jonathan Taylor's getting a little bit older

00:53:11,427 --> 00:53:12,687 [Speaker 3]

and I worry about-

00:53:12,687 --> 00:53:12,887 [Speaker 1]

26

00:53:12,887 --> 00:53:17,527 [Speaker 3]

... the amount of... Well, I'm not talking about age of player. I'm talking about age of-

00:53:17,527 --> 00:53:17,887 [Speaker 1]

Age of body?

00:53:17,887 --> 00:53:18,407 [Speaker 3]

Football.

00:53:18,407 --> 00:53:18,507 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

00:53:18,507 --> 00:53:19,327 [Speaker 1]

Age of body.

00:53:19,327 --> 00:53:19,347 [Speaker 3]

Yes.

00:53:19,347 --> 00:53:20,287 [Speaker 2]

He has a lot of carries.

00:53:20,287 --> 00:53:20,887 [Speaker 3]

Lot of carries. Remember-

00:53:20,887 --> 00:53:21,707 [Speaker 1]

Not such a young guy.

00:53:21,707 --> 00:53:22,567 [Speaker 2]

Even in Wisconsin.

00:53:22,567 --> 00:53:25,267 [Speaker 3]

I was gonna say, college, man. They fed him the rock.

00:53:25,267 --> 00:53:25,927 [Speaker 2]

Yep, yep.

00:53:25,927 --> 00:53:38,367 [Speaker 3]

He's had little nagging injuries here and there and they rely on him so much. And a lot of his

production last year, if you look at his games, came in weeks

00:53:38,367 --> 00:53:40,087 [Speaker 3]

15 through 18.

00:53:40,087 --> 00:53:43,347 [Speaker 1]

Is that after they decided Anthony Richardson was not the starter anymore?

00:53:43,347 --> 00:53:44,767 [Speaker 3]

It was after the buy.

00:53:44,767 --> 00:53:45,167 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:53:45,167 --> 00:53:46,827 [Speaker 3]

And he went bananas.

00:53:46,827 --> 00:53:47,907 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

00:53:47,907 --> 00:53:53,367 [Speaker 3]

He finished as... His last three weeks, 16, 17, 18, RB1, RB1, RB5.

00:53:53,367 --> 00:53:55,567 [Speaker 1]

Who- who... Was Anthony Richardson starting-

00:53:55,567 --> 00:53:56,927 [Speaker 3]

29, 32 and 34 carries.

00:53:56,927 --> 00:54:00,187 [Speaker 1]

Was anything Re- Was Anthony Richardson starting those games? Do we know?

00:54:00,187 --> 00:54:01,047 [Speaker 3]

I believe-

00:54:01,047 --> 00:54:01,787 [Speaker 1]

No. He was not, right?

00:54:01,787 --> 00:54:02,827 [Speaker 3]

I don't think- I don't think he was.

00:54:02,827 --> 00:54:03,887 [Speaker 1]

Right. Which-

00:54:03,887 --> 00:54:28,447 [Speaker 3]

But they were basically like, "Hey, Jonathan Taylor, you're the only offense we have. Run this

ball." I think that's gonna be different throughout the year. I- I think they're going to maybe give

him a little bit less in hopes that he finishes and gives them what they need. So, love the

player. I think he'll be awesome. I just wouldn't take him over the guys just below him who are

gonna catch the ball, like Kyron or Bucky Irving or those types of players.

00:54:28,447 --> 00:55:19,839 [Speaker 1]

So, I think Anthony Richardson held him back a lot. They were able to stack the box. They

weren't worried about Anthony Richardson throwing the ball at all, period. Any team in the

league, me included. Not worried about him throwing the ball. Showed.He does not become the

starter anymore. Jonathan Taylor goes nuts. Jonathan Taylor in his first two years in the league,

36 receptions, 40 receptions. He can catch the ball. Anthony Richardson just didn't throw to the

running back. The two following seasons he was hurt, 11 games and 10 games, 28 catches, 19

catches. Last year only 18. And I believe most of those came when it was not Anthony

Richardson. So, I actually think Jonathan Taylor is an underrated receiver. He just doesn't get

the opportunities. And I think he will this year with Daniel Jones, which I think elevates his level.

It's the only one I think I disagree on with you.

00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:24,100 [Speaker 3]

I'm not saying he can't catch the ball, but I'm saying that's not his role-

00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:24,359 [Speaker 1]

I think00:

55:24,359 --> 00:55:25,359 [Speaker 3]

... on that team.

00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:30,739 [Speaker 1]

I think it wasn't with the quarterback who didn't check down, but I think it will be this season.

00:55:30,739 --> 00:55:33,440 [Speaker 3]

What is the easiest throw to make as a quarterback?

00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,100 [Speaker 1]

Check down to the running back.

00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:42,359 [Speaker 3]

And so you're telling me that a quarterback that can't run an NFL offense isn't going to be told

by his offensive coordinator, "Check the ball down to the running back"?

00:55:42,359 --> 00:55:45,319 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. He probably was, and he didn't do it. And that's why he's not starting any more.

00:55:45,319 --> 00:55:47,499 [Speaker 3]

He only had 31 targets.

00:55:47,499 --> 00:55:48,979 [Speaker 1]

Last year?

00:55:48,979 --> 00:55:49,619 [Speaker 3]

31.

00:55:49,619 --> 00:55:50,739 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

00:55:50,739 --> 00:55:52,619 [Speaker 3]

Same head coach.

00:55:52,619 --> 00:55:54,559 [Speaker 1]

How many...

00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,999 [Speaker 1]

This is a little... We're going too deep. We're going too deep. We'll talk about this off-air, you

and I.

00:55:57,999 --> 00:56:00,359 [Speaker 3]

Again, I love Jonathan Taylor.

00:56:00,359 --> 00:56:00,819 [Speaker 2]

It makes me happy.

00:56:00,819 --> 00:56:03,139 [Speaker 3]

But I, but I wouldn't take him there in the second round.

00:56:03,139 --> 00:56:04,139 [Speaker 1]

What makes you happy?

00:56:04,139 --> 00:56:05,659 [Speaker 2]

That he might be there for me into tomorrow.

00:56:05,659 --> 00:56:06,659 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:56:06,659 --> 00:56:08,699 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:09,299 [Speaker 3]

He might.

00:56:09,299 --> 00:56:10,539 [Speaker 2]

We have a draft tomorrow.

00:56:10,539 --> 00:56:10,899 [Speaker 3]

We do.

00:56:10,899 --> 00:56:13,099 [Speaker 2]

Oh, I'm so excited. It's our first live draft.

00:56:13,099 --> 00:56:15,279 [Speaker 3]

And in the right place I'd still draft Jonathan Taylor.

00:56:15,279 --> 00:56:15,299 [Speaker 1]

In person, yeah.

00:56:15,299 --> 00:56:16,759 [Speaker 3]

'Cause he's very, very talented.

00:56:16,759 --> 00:56:19,479 [Speaker 2]

Yeah, he won't g- e- he won't get to you in the third. I promise you that.

00:56:19,479 --> 00:56:20,139 [Speaker 3]

Perfect. Perfect. He's all you.

00:56:20,139 --> 00:56:22,339 [Speaker 2]

I promise you that.

00:56:22,339 --> 00:56:23,599 [Speaker 1]

Who's up?

00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,819 [Speaker 2]

I believe that is you, my friend.

00:56:25,819 --> 00:56:26,379 [Speaker 1]

Oh. All right. We're gonna fly-

00:56:26,379 --> 00:56:26,759 [Speaker 3]

Let's do round three favorite

00:56:26,759 --> 00:56:28,079 [Speaker 1]

... we're gonna start flying through these.

00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:28,099 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

00:56:28,099 --> 00:56:30,539 [Speaker 1]

Round three favorite. You said you liked this guy.

00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:31,279 [Speaker 3]

Love him.

00:56:31,279 --> 00:56:32,299 [Speaker 1]

Love this guy.

00:56:32,299 --> 00:56:33,619 [Speaker 3]

I'd take him over Jonathan Taylor.

00:56:33,619 --> 00:56:34,719 [Speaker 2]

I don't know about that, but I do.

00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:50,399 [Speaker 1]

My round three favorite, Jaxon Smith-Njigba for the Seahawks. Sam Darnold-led Seattle

Seahawks. I just think opportunity is the game. We ta- we use this word a lot. That's opportunity

abundant there with no DK Metcalf left and no Fant is gone. [laughs]

00:56:50,399 --> 00:56:51,539 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:56:51,539 --> 00:56:57,579 [Speaker 1]

Uh, that's my favorite round three. Who's our next favorite round three? Looks like-

00:56:57,579 --> 00:56:59,099 [Speaker 2]

This is my guy, Tee Higgins.

00:56:59,099 --> 00:56:59,219 [Speaker 1]

Okay. Okay.

00:56:59,219 --> 00:57:02,899 [Speaker 2]

And this is just part of the greatest offense of all time for fantasy football.

00:57:02,899 --> 00:57:03,219 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

00:57:03,219 --> 00:57:17,639 [Speaker 2]

So, Tee Higgins, uh, he was actually one of the better receivers when healthy. Now, the biggest

question with Tee Higgins is always health. But on average per game, Tee Higgins was wide

receiver six last year. So when he plays, he's a monster. He's a t-

00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:18,059 [Speaker 1]

That's insane.

00:57:18,059 --> 00:57:23,859 [Speaker 2]

He's a big body, touchdown guy. If he stays healthy, this offense is incredible. I love me some

Tee Higgins.

00:57:23,859 --> 00:57:29,579 [Speaker 1]

On that offense, they had the wide receiver six per game average and probably the wide

receiver one per game average last year.

00:57:29,579 --> 00:57:30,379 [Speaker 3]

He was number one.

00:57:30,379 --> 00:57:33,879 [Speaker 1]

That's nuts. Chasen Hicks just Yeah, they just paid Tee. Yes, they did.

00:57:33,879 --> 00:57:37,339 [Speaker 3]

Tee is the wide receiver one that gets to go up against cornerback twos.

00:57:37,339 --> 00:57:38,079 [Speaker 1]

That would be-

00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,719 [Speaker 3]

Which is why he is so good on that team.

00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:44,599 [Speaker 1]

Roddy White, Julio Jones. Back in, when Roddy was still on the program.

00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:45,279 [Speaker 3]

Oh, there you go. Julio and so many guys.

00:57:45,279 --> 00:57:45,879 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, that was great.

00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:47,839 [Speaker 2]

Tee Higgins just is a great wide receiver too.

00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:51,979 [Speaker 3]

Absolutely. Uh, my favorite round three, same offense-

00:57:51,979 --> 00:57:53,059 [Speaker 1]

Greatest offense of all time.

00:57:53,059 --> 00:57:54,679 [Speaker 3]

... Chase Brown.

00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:55,419 [Speaker 2]

Love it.

00:57:55,419 --> 00:58:04,979 [Speaker 3]

Uh, came on like crazy last year. Looks like he just fits exactly what they do, um, to a T. Uh, uh,

Tee Higgins maybe?

00:58:04,979 --> 00:58:05,379 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:58:05,379 --> 00:58:14,019 [Speaker 3]

Um, anyways, uh, love Chase Brown. Uh, go and get him and he's gonna catch a ton of passes

from Joe Burrow when he's under duress.

00:58:14,019 --> 00:58:20,499 [Speaker 2]

I will say real quick, that is one thing that surprised me when he started playing towards the

end and being the work horse, the amount of catches and targets he gets.

00:58:20,499 --> 00:58:20,579 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

00:58:20,579 --> 00:58:25,979 [Speaker 2]

He is a PPR monster. I think he's someone who can creep into the top five.

00:58:25,979 --> 00:58:26,559 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,659 [Speaker 1]

Jamar Chase Brown? Sorry, you did the Tee thing. I-

00:58:29,659 --> 00:58:29,759 [Speaker 2]

Oh, do I?

00:58:29,759 --> 00:58:30,879 [Speaker 1]

Sorry, sorry.

00:58:30,879 --> 00:58:31,739 [Speaker 3]

I think Jamar Chase is better.

00:58:31,739 --> 00:58:38,939 [Speaker 1]

[laughs] Round three least favorite, going back to stellar player,

00:58:38,939 --> 00:58:49,839 [Speaker 1]

way too early for this position, still for me. Trey McBride of the Cardinals, tight end,

unbelievable season last year. Didn't catch a touchdown I think 'til like week 14 or 15, whatever

it was.

00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:51,839 [Speaker 2]

No, it was the very last week of the season.

00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:52,139 [Speaker 1]

It was the last week. Oh, that's insane.

00:58:52,139 --> 00:58:53,079 [Speaker 2]

It didn't even count.

00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:55,999 [Speaker 1]

That is so insane [laughs]. For fantasy it didn't count at all. Right, and-

00:58:55,999 --> 00:58:57,519 [Speaker 2]

If you're... Eh, you shouldn't be playing with 18, but-

00:58:57,519 --> 00:59:05,739 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, correct. And it's, it's just too early. Again, round three, tight end, I- I can't, I just can't put

my name on it. That's why it's my least fave.

00:59:05,739 --> 00:59:18,239 [Speaker 2]

Uh, I lo- I do love Trey McBride but I'm with you. I'm waiting 'til the end probably to take a tight

end. Or at least middle at the very earliest. But I- there's running backs and receivers I'd much

rather have than Trey McBride.

00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:23,879 [Speaker 3]

I think McBride's fantastic. I think he catches a lot more touchdowns this year and I would take

him in the third round.

00:59:23,879 --> 00:59:23,939 [Speaker 2]

Hmm.

00:59:23,939 --> 00:59:25,299 [Speaker 1]

He definitely will.

00:59:25,299 --> 00:59:25,839 [Speaker 3]

They'll be there for you.

00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:29,099 [Speaker 1]

There's no way he has a one touchdown season again.

00:59:29,099 --> 00:59:29,199 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:30,179 [Speaker 1]

Zero, zero percent chance.

00:59:30,179 --> 00:59:31,999 [Speaker 3]

Which means he'll be even more valuable.

00:59:31,999 --> 00:59:33,979 [Speaker 1]

Former Colorado State Ram, Mountain West pride guy.

00:59:33,979 --> 00:59:35,199 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:36,499 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

00:59:36,499 --> 00:59:37,439 [Speaker 1]

Who's up next? Who's up next?

00:59:37,439 --> 01:00:12,379 [Speaker 2]

Uh, so my least favorite this year, and I love the guy in the past. He- he's my kryptonite actually

in fantasy football. I feel like every time I go against him, he gets... He like drops 30 on me.

That's Mike Evans. Uh, this has everything to do with age and Liam Coen leaving. And, I, again, I

think I'm just selling on Tampa Bay's offense this year. I loved them last year. I wanted every

bits of it. I- I kind of want to sell this year because I don't think they're going to live up to the

hype. And if you remember, he had a thousand yards but it came to week 18 in like the final

play and they had to force it. I do think his production comes down. This might be the first year

he doesn't get a thousand yards. But he is a touchdown guy.

01:00:12,379 --> 01:00:12,399 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:00:12,399 --> 01:00:21,579 [Speaker 2]

So, I understand that part. I would wait later to take him. Ag- I'm not saying I completely hate

Mike Evans, but I don't see him as that elite guy anymore.

01:00:21,579 --> 01:00:23,859 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm. You, lack of upside-

01:00:23,859 --> 01:00:24,019 [Speaker 2]

It-

01:00:24,019 --> 01:00:25,859 [Speaker 3]

... for- for other players you can get in that range.

01:00:25,859 --> 01:00:30,979 [Speaker 1]

Exactly. It's this silly conversation we had about Kyron earlier basically with just Mike Evans.

01:00:30,979 --> 01:00:31,339 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:00:31,339 --> 01:00:33,119 [Speaker 2]

And he, I mean, he's probably the greatest-

01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:34,299 [Speaker 3]

Well, they're a whole different age though.

01:00:34,299 --> 01:00:35,079 [Speaker 1]

Sure. Yeah, for sure.

01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:35,099 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:40,239 [Speaker 2]

He's probably the greatest Tampa Bay Buck of all time from like a career long standpoint.

Obviously Brady was there, but w- no.

01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:40,259 [Speaker 3]

Oh.

01:00:40,259 --> 01:00:43,379 [Speaker 2]

But from a career long standpoint, he might be up there with like Warren Sapp and Garrett

Brooks-

01:00:43,379 --> 01:00:44,259 [Speaker 3]

I was gonna say, Warren Sapp

01:00:44,259 --> 01:00:45,579 [Speaker 2]

... John Lee.

01:00:45,579 --> 01:00:45,999 [Speaker 3]

... might have something to say about that. Yeah.

01:00:45,999 --> 01:00:48,759 [Speaker 2]

Well, okay, best offensive player of all time for the Bucks? Is that okay?

01:00:49,751 --> 01:00:51,151 [Speaker 3]

I, I don't think I could argue against it.

01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:51,351 [Speaker 2]

Okay.

01:00:51,351 --> 01:00:51,731 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:00:51,731 --> 01:00:51,832 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

01:00:51,832 --> 01:00:52,191 [Speaker 1]

No.

01:00:52,191 --> 01:00:52,631 [Speaker 2]

Okay.

01:00:52,631 --> 01:00:52,751 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:00:52,751 --> 01:00:53,431 [Speaker 3]

I'm down with it.

01:00:53,431 --> 01:00:55,532 [Speaker 1]

I love the work done on Mike Alstott. Shout out work done-

01:00:55,532 --> 01:00:57,171 [Speaker 3]

Mm. Yeah, Keenan McCardell.

01:00:57,171 --> 01:00:57,191 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:00:57,191 --> 01:00:58,371 [Speaker 1]

Mike Alstott. I'd go Mike Evans though.

01:00:58,371 --> 01:01:02,111 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, I would too. All right, least favorite for me round three, Tyreek Hill.

01:01:02,111 --> 01:01:04,291 [Speaker 1]

Mm. What a putt, dude.

01:01:04,291 --> 01:01:04,312 [Speaker 3]

Uh, I...

01:01:04,312 --> 01:01:05,831 [Speaker 1]

How will you pick a challenging one?

01:01:05,831 --> 01:01:07,031 [Speaker 3]

So, so Tyreek-

01:01:07,031 --> 01:01:07,052 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:01:07,052 --> 01:01:35,551 [Speaker 3]

... to me is just a bigger name than production at this point in his career. He is nothing but a

distraction the last couple years. I mean, you guys say what you want. He does produce at

times on the field, but he just seems unmotivated to play football. I don't know if it's just eye

testing for me, but, uh, I am just passing on Tyreek Hill. Him and Tua don't even seem to be on

the same page. Uh, Tua is definitely a, a risk. Both of them are risk of being on the field for the

year. He's just not somebody I'm gonna draft.

01:01:35,551 --> 01:01:35,592 [Speaker 2]

Uh-

01:01:35,592 --> 01:01:44,491 [Speaker 3]

He's such a conundrum because, uh, I see him in like mock drafts in like the fourth round, and

I'm like, "Oh my God, Tyreek Hill's still here." Like I... Tyreek Hill! But-

01:01:44,491 --> 01:01:44,592 [Speaker 1]

Yep

01:01:44,592 --> 01:01:48,211 [Speaker 3]

... the off-season quotes have not been great with him and Tua.

01:01:48,211 --> 01:01:48,231 [Speaker 1]

No.

01:01:48,231 --> 01:02:01,891 [Speaker 3]

Uh, I don't know what the case is, but, uh, it's har- it's one of those like I'm trying to stay away. I

don't know if I'll end up with Tyreek, but I can't... If he falls to me somewhere, like I have to take

him, I, I'm gonna have to take him 'cause he's Tyreek Hill still.

01:02:01,891 --> 01:02:02,491 [Speaker 1]

It's just tough-

01:02:02,491 --> 01:02:03,671 [Speaker 3]

Just don't do it in the third round.

01:02:03,671 --> 01:02:04,951 [Speaker 2]

No, definitely not third round. No.

01:02:04,951 --> 01:02:22,431 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, I wouldn't either. It's, it's tough to see a guy like that. I mean, he was a first round pick for

many years for us. Um, it's just, like I said last week, I think he might Antonio Brown himself

right out of the league, and I hope it doesn't happen this year, but he's kinda trending in that

direction. Favorite, round four?

01:02:22,431 --> 01:02:23,371 [Speaker 3]

Round four.

01:02:23,371 --> 01:02:23,571 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

01:02:23,571 --> 01:02:30,151 [Speaker 1]

Favorite round four picks. I'll start with mine. Chuba Hubbard, who I just noticed I misspelled his

name in my notes.

01:02:30,151 --> 01:02:30,971 [Speaker 3]

Wow, one B?

01:02:30,971 --> 01:02:31,691 [Speaker 1]

One B.

01:02:31,691 --> 01:02:32,131 [Speaker 3]

Oh, no way.

01:02:32,131 --> 01:02:36,811 [Speaker 1]

Not two Bs. There's only one B, not two. I put Chubba Hubbard. It's actually Chuba Hubbard

with one B.

01:02:36,811 --> 01:02:37,831 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, it is one B.

01:02:37,831 --> 01:02:38,931 [Speaker 1]

Makes sense. Yeah, yep. Sorry.

01:02:38,931 --> 01:02:40,191 [Speaker 3]

Two Bs in the last name. Oh, I was just-

01:02:40,191 --> 01:02:40,611 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, correct

01:02:40,611 --> 01:02:41,691 [Speaker 3]

... asking how many Bs in the last name.

01:02:41,691 --> 01:02:41,871 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:02:41,871 --> 01:02:42,991 [Speaker 3]

Just to see if you know.

01:02:42,991 --> 01:02:45,551 [Speaker 1]

Hey, my bad, Chuba. I spelled it Chubba if you're watching.

01:02:45,551 --> 01:02:45,931 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

01:02:45,931 --> 01:02:47,111 [Speaker 1]

But I had Chuba Hubbard-

01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:47,191 [Speaker 3]

I'm sure he is

01:02:47,191 --> 01:02:51,771 [Speaker 1]

... in a couple leagues last year. Um, everyone was worried about Jonathon Brooks,

01:02:51,771 --> 01:03:07,471 [Speaker 1]

not affected. And I think this year, he's, he's just gonna kinda do the same thing he did last

year. He had 4.8 yards per carry, 10 touchdowns in 15 games. Everyone's expecting this

offense to kinda take a step forward, and I think he'll benefit from that. So that's my favorite

fourth round.

01:03:07,471 --> 01:03:09,971 [Speaker 3]

I agree. Look out for Bryce Young this year.

01:03:09,971 --> 01:03:10,331 [Speaker 1]

Shout out.

01:03:10,331 --> 01:03:10,951 [Speaker 3]

He's coming.

01:03:10,951 --> 01:03:12,511 [Speaker 2]

I think I was a year early on Carolina.

01:03:12,511 --> 01:03:12,531 [Speaker 1]

He was, yeah.

01:03:12,531 --> 01:03:13,811 [Speaker 2]

Remember I was high on them last year?

01:03:13,811 --> 01:03:14,191 [Speaker 3]

You were a year early.

01:03:14,191 --> 01:03:14,211 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:14,211 --> 01:03:15,271 [Speaker 2]

I think I was a year early.

01:03:15,271 --> 01:03:15,831 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:03:15,831 --> 01:03:16,451 [Speaker 1]

He's what? He's what?

01:03:16,451 --> 01:03:22,451 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, they're, they're coming. By the way, this is the preferred fantasy football f- podcast for

all, uh, NFL players, just in case you guys were wondering.

01:03:22,451 --> 01:03:23,231 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, no doubt.

01:03:23,231 --> 01:03:24,211 [Speaker 2]

Shout out.

01:03:24,211 --> 01:03:25,391 [Speaker 1]

Friend of the program, Chuba Hubbard.

01:03:25,391 --> 01:03:26,951 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:03:26,951 --> 01:03:28,631 [Speaker 3]

With one B.

01:03:28,631 --> 01:03:28,951 [Speaker 1]

Next.

01:03:28,951 --> 01:03:29,511 [Speaker 3]

And this is you-

01:03:29,511 --> 01:03:30,371 [Speaker 1]

Fourth round favorite-

01:03:30,371 --> 01:03:30,991 [Speaker 3]

... Mr. Powers.

01:03:30,991 --> 01:03:31,031 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

01:03:31,031 --> 01:03:31,451 [Speaker 1]

Is-

01:03:31,451 --> 01:03:34,351 [Speaker 3]

Fourth round favorite for me, Mr. George Kittle.

01:03:34,351 --> 01:03:35,431 [Speaker 1]

Best team in football.

01:03:35,431 --> 01:03:55,731 [Speaker 3]

Um, oh, I'm not so sure about that, but I had to at least get me, uh, another 49er in here for

Ray. Um, and George Kittle is awesome. That guy is ageless. He's gonna give you exactly what

you expect every single year. If I can get that as somebody who could easily be the tight end

one in the fourth round,

01:03:55,731 --> 01:04:14,891 [Speaker 3]

and I already have, you know, three players that I can count on, and he's somebody I can

insert, that I know exactly what he's gonna do. I mean, his career, other than his rookie year

when he plays a full season tight end three, tight end two, tight end four, tight end three, tight

end five, unless you're tight end three.

01:04:14,891 --> 01:04:16,991 [Speaker 3]

Please let me have George Kittle. [laughs]

01:04:16,991 --> 01:04:24,351 [Speaker 1]

For- It's still too early for me for tight end, so another one I disagree with you on weirdly. Two of

them now, but it's still too early for me for tight end.

01:04:24,351 --> 01:04:41,111 [Speaker 3]

I love Kittle. Here's my quick, random nugget that most people don't know. He was actually

seventh in tight ends in targets. He didn't even have 100 targets. He had 94 targets. So I do

think that number does go up though. He's a monster. He's a b- 78 catches out of 94 targets.

That's actually an incredible catch rate.

01:04:41,111 --> 01:04:41,531 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:04:41,531 --> 01:04:49,451 [Speaker 3]

He is a beast. He should get more targets this year. No Deebo. Aiyuk's not gonna come back

right away. He's clear number one passing option in this game.

01:04:49,451 --> 01:04:52,931 [Speaker 1]

And the easiest strength of schedule for the 49ers. I know strength of schedule, whatever.

01:04:52,931 --> 01:04:52,951 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:04:52,951 --> 01:04:58,031 [Speaker 1]

It's hard to predict from year to year, but currently projected to be the easiest schedule of them

all.

01:04:58,031 --> 01:05:01,451 [Speaker 3]

Just a zero drama, does everything the team needs all the time player.

01:05:01,451 --> 01:05:02,311 [Speaker 1]

You're right about zero drama.

01:05:02,311 --> 01:05:04,471 [Speaker 3]

I don't like how he treated Dallas, but that's a different story.

01:05:04,471 --> 01:05:04,671 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:05:04,671 --> 01:05:04,951 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

01:05:04,951 --> 01:05:59,951 [Speaker 2]

[laughs] My favorite, and this is kinda just going with upside, in the fourth round, I love me

some DK Metcalf here. He is going fourth, and I've seen some as late as fifth. I think as a, he's

a, one of the better receivers still talent-wise in the league. Rodgers, now say what you want

about Rodgers, he did get better last year. And people forget, he was coming back from Achilles

tendon, and he's 40 years old now. So he's, he's one year removed from that injury. He had a

whole year to play. He looked fine. I do think Rodgers is gonna be better than people think. I

think people are just harsh on him because of what happened with the Jets and the drama and

everything like that. But as a fantasy football quarterback, I think this relationship's gonna

work. DK's really the only weapon there. They tr- uh, traded for Jonnu Smith. They have Pat

Freiermuth. But their number two wide receiver, Calvin Austin, DK Metcalf I can see getting 150,

160 targets this year.

01:05:59,951 --> 01:06:02,311 [Speaker 1]

Watch your mouth about Roman Wilson, man.

01:06:02,311 --> 01:06:03,151 [Speaker 2]

Okay, so-

01:06:03,151 --> 01:06:03,811 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

01:06:03,811 --> 01:06:05,171 [Speaker 2]

... the wide receiver five. Gotcha.

01:06:05,171 --> 01:06:14,391 [Speaker 1]

Wow. He's the, I think he's, I think he's better than Calvin Austin. We'll see by end of the year,

but we're almost talking too long about these fire through.

01:06:14,391 --> 01:06:15,391 [Speaker 1]

Least favorite?

01:06:15,391 --> 01:06:16,211 [Speaker 3]

Uh-

01:06:16,211 --> 01:06:16,771 [Speaker 1]

Or least favorite?

01:06:16,771 --> 01:06:19,571 [Speaker 3]

I mean, I'll just go next because my least favorite is DK Metcalf.

01:06:19,571 --> 01:06:20,071 [Speaker 1]

There it is. Yeah.

01:06:20,071 --> 01:06:20,111 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

01:06:20,111 --> 01:06:20,811 [Speaker 3]

Same round.

01:06:20,811 --> 01:06:21,131 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

01:06:21,131 --> 01:07:02,404 [Speaker 3]

So DK to me is another one where I think the name is just bigger than the production he's

gonna give you. Um, DK was great as a young player and has kind of just not quite been the

same productivity-wise. Still probably the best built dude in the NFL. Like the guy is

unbelievable. Um, but he just doesn't seem to produce the way that he should in the last couple

years. Like he's had-Full seasons, he's been the wide receiver the last three years. Wide

receiver 16, 21, and then 32 last year. He had 108 targets last year. Only caught 66 passes.

01:07:02,404 --> 01:07:04,444 [Speaker 1]

Bad catch rate.

01:07:04,444 --> 01:07:09,303 [Speaker 3]

And he has not had double-digit touchdowns since 2021.

01:07:09,303 --> 01:07:11,803 [Speaker 2]

Geno Smith or Aaron Rodgers?

01:07:11,803 --> 01:07:13,223 [Speaker 1]

Currently?

01:07:13,223 --> 01:07:13,643 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

01:07:13,643 --> 01:07:15,103 [Speaker 1]

I think they're about the same.

01:07:15,103 --> 01:07:16,143 [Speaker 2]

Okay.

01:07:16,143 --> 01:07:26,643 [Speaker 3]

And I- we'll see. I hope I'm wrong. I hope he has a good year. Um, but Pittsburgh is just... I don't

know what Pittsburgh is.

01:07:26,643 --> 01:07:27,183 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, it's... I don't either.

01:07:27,183 --> 01:07:41,244 [Speaker 3]

They're, they're in so much, like, back and forth, and, um, but if, if anybody can get him the

ball, I believe Aaron Rodgers can still get him the ball. I'm just not super confident drafting him

there. That, that's just me.

01:07:41,244 --> 01:07:44,143 [Speaker 2]

I hear you. I, I love the opportunities though, but that's just me.

01:07:44,143 --> 01:07:45,143 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:07:45,143 --> 01:07:47,564 [Speaker 1]

Your least favorite round four?

01:07:47,564 --> 01:07:54,423 [Speaker 2]

So I'm jumping off the band... I used to be on the bandwagon. I'm jumping off of it. Kenneth

Walker III.

01:07:54,423 --> 01:07:55,123 [Speaker 3]

Dang.

01:07:55,123 --> 01:07:55,423 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:07:55,423 --> 01:08:31,283 [Speaker 2]

He, he's just... I can't rely on him. He's just too injury-prone. In th- in the round four, other

running backs I can get, or even receivers, depending on which path I go, I'd much rather take

them. So, like, ma- uh, James Conner, Alvin Kamara, those are guys at least I know can perform,

have performed. Alvin Kamara, obviously, the Saints offense is questionable. James Conner,

both of them, though, did better than Kenneth Walker last year. I just don't know if he's gonna

stay healthy. And I actually really like Zach Charbonnet. I think Zach Charbonnet's a really good

running back, and I can see this being a 50/50 split. Maybe even Charbonnet starts to take over

a little bit as the season goes on.

01:08:31,283 --> 01:08:34,763 [Speaker 1]

I know Aaron likes that. Zach Charbonnet, former UCLA Bruin.

01:08:34,763 --> 01:08:34,983 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:08:34,983 --> 01:08:42,123 [Speaker 1]

My least favorite round four, I know we probably had a little bit to say there, but I'm just gonna

try to get Gabe up out of here for his draft tonight.

01:08:42,123 --> 01:08:42,683 [Speaker 2]

You gotta go.

01:08:42,683 --> 01:08:57,123 [Speaker 1]

My, my least favorite round four, Breece Hall, you guys know my feelings on Breece Hall this

year. I think Jaylon Allen eventually takes over that backfield. I think Breece might be traded

before the trade deadline. All the things, I think it's, uh, Jaylon Allen's backfield to have for the

latter half of the season.

01:08:57,123 --> 01:08:58,683 [Speaker 2]

I think everyone's out the Breece Hall train.

01:08:58,683 --> 01:09:00,503 [Speaker 3]

He's so young, though.

01:09:00,503 --> 01:09:01,923 [Speaker 2]

He, he could be so good, but-

01:09:01,923 --> 01:09:02,103 [Speaker 3]

Oh, my gosh

01:09:02,103 --> 01:09:03,223 [Speaker 2]

... it's just a weird situation.

01:09:03,223 --> 01:09:06,223 [Speaker 3]

It is odd. But I, I still believe in him for some reason.

01:09:06,223 --> 01:09:06,663 [Speaker 1]

I do, too.

01:09:06,663 --> 01:09:06,883 [Speaker 3]

I don't know why.

01:09:06,883 --> 01:09:11,423 [Speaker 1]

I think he'll be good somewhere else, but I don't wanna really wait to see where he goes, and

then, you know-

01:09:11,423 --> 01:09:11,503 [Speaker 3]

Yeah

01:09:11,503 --> 01:09:12,903 [Speaker 1]

... I just think Jaylon Allen takes over the, the backfield.

01:09:12,903 --> 01:09:13,803 [Speaker 3]

It's, it's a risk.

01:09:13,803 --> 01:09:13,983 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:14,723 [Speaker 3]

For sure.

01:09:14,723 --> 01:09:24,503 [Speaker 2]

I hope my favorite round five person was in your bounce-back candidates because I think he's

gonna be possibly the best bounce-back candidate, and that's Isaiah Pacheco.

01:09:24,503 --> 01:09:25,103 [Speaker 1]

Crazy.

01:09:25,103 --> 01:09:27,323 [Speaker 2]

I love me some Isaiah Pacheco this year.

01:09:27,323 --> 01:09:27,963 [Speaker 3]

He, he was in it.

01:09:27,963 --> 01:09:49,743 [Speaker 2]

I think I'd probably have, rather have him than Breece Hall and Kenneth Walker, because I do

think he's... They're gonna score. Look, I think the Chiefs realized, and I know in the blowout in

the Super Bowl, I don't know how you finally realized that you should've been going, going deep

to Xavier Worthy, who's the fastest guy in the NFL. You should probably have him running nines

and posts and corners, and things like he was running. Rashee Rice is gonna start the season.

We, I mean-

01:09:49,743 --> 01:09:49,903 [Speaker 3]

Maybe.

01:09:49,903 --> 01:09:50,863 [Speaker 2]

I don't think he's gonna get s-

01:09:50,863 --> 01:09:51,043 [Speaker 3]

Maybe.

01:09:51,043 --> 01:09:56,363 [Speaker 2]

Well, I think he's gonna start the season. I don't think they're gonna suspend him before the

season. He'll obviously get his suspension in the middle of the season.

01:09:56,363 --> 01:09:57,043 [Speaker 1]

It's so annoying, but yeah.

01:09:57,043 --> 01:09:57,883 [Speaker 2]

So that'll be a-

01:09:57,883 --> 01:10:01,243 [Speaker 3]

I think he could take a deal on that and start the season suspended.

01:10:01,243 --> 01:10:06,323 [Speaker 2]

Y- w- they, he can, but I, I just don't think he will. But, uh, we could... Well, we still have a

couple of weeks.

01:10:06,323 --> 01:10:07,663 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:10:07,663 --> 01:10:23,463 [Speaker 2]

T- Travis Kelce, Hollywood Brown, Rashee Rice, Xavier Worthy, they have the offense set up

to... They improved the offensive line a little bit. I know they got rid of Tunney, but they

improved those tackles. They brought in the tackle from the Niners, the backup who played

pretty well in Trenton Williams' spot. I like Pacheco going forward. He's the touchdown guy.

01:10:23,463 --> 01:10:25,643 [Speaker 1]

Andy Reid, still there. Football guy.

01:10:25,643 --> 01:10:28,483 [Speaker 2]

And I don't think he has much go- I know Kareem Hunt's still there.

01:10:28,483 --> 01:10:28,723 [Speaker 1]

Right.

01:10:28,723 --> 01:10:30,563 [Speaker 2]

Pache- Pacheco can catch out the backfield too.

01:10:30,563 --> 01:10:32,723 [Speaker 1]

Carson still. Yeah. No- no- no- nothing really-

01:10:32,723 --> 01:10:33,383 [Speaker 2]

Nothing that scares you.

01:10:33,383 --> 01:10:34,123 [Speaker 1]

No real threats. Yeah.

01:10:34,123 --> 01:10:40,043 [Speaker 3]

I like Pacheco. He was, uh, he was a shell of himself last year. He was na- He came back. He

should not have. He was hurt.

01:10:40,043 --> 01:10:40,363 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

01:10:40,363 --> 01:10:43,523 [Speaker 3]

Um, don't take last year when you're

01:10:43,523 --> 01:10:44,463 [Speaker 3]

judging him. Like-

01:10:44,463 --> 01:10:44,743 [Speaker 2]

Right.

01:10:44,743 --> 01:10:45,823 [Speaker 3]

Pacheco was a good player.

01:10:45,823 --> 01:10:45,963 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:10:45,963 --> 01:10:48,063 [Speaker 1]

Bounce-back candidate. Aaron Powers' article.

01:10:48,063 --> 01:10:48,723 [Speaker 3]

Absolutely.

01:10:48,723 --> 01:10:51,523 [Speaker 1]

Well, good pick, Gabe. We agree on this guy.

01:10:51,523 --> 01:10:51,983 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:10:51,983 --> 01:10:56,843 [Speaker 1]

For our round five favorite. You want to pronounce his full name, and then I'll say his proper

nickname?

01:10:56,843 --> 01:10:59,503 [Speaker 3]

Uh, yes. Uh, Tetearoa McMillan.

01:10:59,503 --> 01:10:59,523 [Speaker 1]

McMillan.

01:10:59,523 --> 01:11:00,103 [Speaker 2]

Good job.

01:11:00,103 --> 01:11:02,483 [Speaker 1]

Very good. Or AKT Mack.

01:11:02,483 --> 01:11:03,663 [Speaker 3]

Yes, yes.

01:11:03,663 --> 01:11:03,683 [Speaker 2]

Hmm.

01:11:03,683 --> 01:11:04,323 [Speaker 3]

TMACK.

01:11:04,323 --> 01:11:11,643 [Speaker 1]

TMACK. Round five favorite Carolina Panthers wide receiver. Why... You said Bryce Young's

coming. You said the Panthers are coming.

01:11:11,643 --> 01:11:12,163 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

01:11:12,163 --> 01:11:13,863 [Speaker 1]

Is he a big reason why?

01:11:13,863 --> 01:11:18,863 [Speaker 3]

Yes. And who's Bryce Young gonna throw the ball to? His brand new top 10 number one pick.

01:11:18,863 --> 01:11:19,483 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:36,863 [Speaker 3]

They're going to target the heck out of him. Um, he looks really good. He was great in college.

Um, I, I looked up a stat the other day. I don't know how many years back it was, but every top

10 wide receiver, and I think it was in the last five or six years, has had over a hundred targets,

every single one.

01:11:36,863 --> 01:11:38,123 [Speaker 1]

Peppered, huh?

01:11:38,123 --> 01:11:46,323 [Speaker 3]

They are going to throw him the ball. He does not really have competition, and, um, I think he's

gonna be great this year. I really do.

01:11:46,323 --> 01:11:48,183 [Speaker 1]

I love it. I love it. I'm happy that we agree on something.

01:11:48,183 --> 01:11:50,683 [Speaker 2]

The Cowboys were gonna draft him, so I know he's gonna be good.

01:11:50,683 --> 01:11:51,343 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:11:51,343 --> 01:11:53,503 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:11:53,503 --> 01:11:57,883 [Speaker 2]

My least favorite round five pick is RJ Harvey.

01:11:57,883 --> 01:11:58,483 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:11:58,483 --> 01:12:08,183 [Speaker 2]

I- There's a lot of hype around him. RB5 on the depth chart. Listen, I know that means nothing.

It's preseason. It... Every co- every team does this with the rookies as motivation.

01:12:08,183 --> 01:12:10,643 [Speaker 1]

When do the officials come out, the depth charts?

01:12:10,643 --> 01:12:11,883 [Speaker 3]

Once they set the 53.

01:12:11,883 --> 01:12:12,183 [Speaker 2]

Yes.

01:12:12,183 --> 01:12:12,843 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

01:12:12,843 --> 01:12:15,183 [Speaker 2]

So look at... And that should be after, uh, this week, I believe.

01:12:15,183 --> 01:12:15,923 [Speaker 3]

Next week.

01:12:15,923 --> 01:12:16,223 [Speaker 2]

Next week.

01:12:16,223 --> 01:12:16,243 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:12:16,243 --> 01:12:28,643 [Speaker 2]

Something like that. So look for that. But look, I'm just not big on the talent either. Like, I don't

see quite... I thought there was other running backs that were better in the draft, and they

reached for RJ Harvey.

01:12:28,643 --> 01:12:29,503 [Speaker 3]

They traded up for him.

01:12:29,503 --> 01:12:30,003 [Speaker 2]

They did.

01:12:30,003 --> 01:12:30,143 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:12:30,143 --> 01:12:38,043 [Speaker 2]

And so I, I believe he was drafted as the RB5 in this draft. I got... Don't quote me on that. It's

RB5, RB6, something like that. So they believe in him, and I-

01:12:38,043 --> 01:12:38,063 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:12:38,063 --> 01:13:01,495 [Speaker 2]

So I like that. I just don't see it. Y- I don't think you bring in JK Dobbins if RJ Harvey's going to be

the guy. I think JK Dobbins will be first and second down. I think RJ Harvey will be third down.

You're just gonna have to be really patient on RJ Harvey, and... 'Cause in the beginning season,

I don't think he's gonna have much production. But-... down the road. He could be. I'm just not

completely sold. And again, I need to see it.

01:13:01,495 --> 01:13:03,956 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, I'm very confused on the backfield there. Very.

01:13:03,956 --> 01:13:05,855 [Speaker 3]

Do you guys want me to tell you what it's gonna be?

01:13:05,855 --> 01:13:06,355 [Speaker 2]

Sure.

01:13:06,355 --> 01:13:10,475 [Speaker 3]

Okay. So, uh, Sean Payton puts every rookie the very last of the depth chart.

01:13:10,475 --> 01:13:10,496 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:13:10,496 --> 01:13:10,636 [Speaker 1]

Yep, yep.

01:13:10,636 --> 01:13:12,515 [Speaker 3]

Bo Nix was the QB3-

01:13:12,515 --> 01:13:12,935 [Speaker 2]

You gotta earn it

01:13:12,935 --> 01:13:13,515 [Speaker 3]

... last year-

01:13:13,515 --> 01:13:13,695 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

01:13:13,695 --> 01:13:14,935 [Speaker 3]

... before he became the starter.

01:13:14,935 --> 01:13:15,235 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:13:15,235 --> 01:13:25,696 [Speaker 3]

So, RJ's RB5 for that reason. Um, he is going to start the season in a 50/50 split with J.K.

Dobbins. That, that is my feeling on it-

01:13:25,696 --> 01:13:25,716 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm

01:13:25,716 --> 01:13:26,895 [Speaker 3]

... after watching the team.

01:13:26,895 --> 01:13:27,315 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:13:27,315 --> 01:13:34,216 [Speaker 3]

Um, J.K., J.K. is gonna start, start. RJ's gonna get a lot of work on first and second down. I

actually think it's the opposite.

01:13:34,216 --> 01:13:34,716 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

01:13:34,716 --> 01:13:42,935 [Speaker 3]

I think your third down, third down back is J.K. Dobbins because of PassPro and the ability to

catch the ball out of the backfield, which he can do.

01:13:42,935 --> 01:13:43,475 [Speaker 2]

Mm-hmm.

01:13:43,475 --> 01:14:00,275 [Speaker 3]

Harvey can also do it. So as he gets more inclined in the Sean Payton offense, I think he takes

over more and then they flip-flop back and forth from early downs to PassPro, right? Screens,

that kinda thing. Nobody else is really going to get touches in that backfield unless they... one

of them gets hurt.

01:14:00,275 --> 01:14:02,915 [Speaker 1]

Mm. The other two are what? Jahlil McLaughlin and, uh-

01:14:02,915 --> 01:14:02,995 [Speaker 3]

Yep

01:14:02,995 --> 01:14:04,775 [Speaker 1]

... Audrick Estime?

01:14:04,775 --> 01:14:06,735 [Speaker 3]

I think Audrick Estime is gonna get cut or traded.

01:14:06,735 --> 01:14:06,895 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:14:06,895 --> 01:14:08,655 [Speaker 3]

I don't think he'll be on the Broncos.

01:14:08,655 --> 01:14:09,115 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

01:14:09,115 --> 01:14:20,835 [Speaker 3]

Um, maybe practice squad if he... But I think they may be able to trade him. He had a good

showing. Um, I think the, uh, fourth back in that backfield is between either, uh, Blake Watson-

01:14:20,835 --> 01:14:20,995 [Speaker 1]

Mm

01:14:20,995 --> 01:14:24,255 [Speaker 3]

... or, uh, Tyler Beday. And I think-

01:14:24,255 --> 01:14:24,895 [Speaker 1]

But no threat

01:14:24,895 --> 01:14:28,775 [Speaker 3]

... Beday, I think Beday has the, the lean. No, Sean Payton's gonna carry at least four-

01:14:28,775 --> 01:14:28,795 [Speaker 1]

No threat to Harvey

01:14:28,795 --> 01:14:32,595 [Speaker 3]

... or five running backs. But R.J. Harvey is gonna play and he's gonna play a lot.

01:14:32,595 --> 01:14:45,095 [Speaker 1]

I think the thing for me and, uh, when I, when I saw Gabe's email about his players, I'm kinda

with him on that. Uh, it's just there's so much up in the air with that situation that I, I don't

wanna spend a fifth round pick on the-

01:14:45,095 --> 01:14:45,275 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:14:45,275 --> 01:14:51,695 [Speaker 1]

... on that big of a question mark for me. I'd rather not do it and then I guess watch him explode

on someone else's team-

01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:51,795 [Speaker 2]

[laughs] Yeah

01:14:51,795 --> 01:14:52,775 [Speaker 1]

... and be like, "That's fine."

01:14:52,775 --> 01:14:53,315 [Speaker 2]

Yeah.

01:14:53,315 --> 01:14:53,755 [Speaker 1]

Or-

01:14:53,755 --> 01:14:59,475 [Speaker 3]

But that, that's your period of the guys who are if it could happen. Like that's why McMillan's in

the fifth round.

01:14:59,475 --> 01:14:59,775 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:14:59,775 --> 01:15:02,455 [Speaker 3]

Like this is your, "Okay, this guy should get time."

01:15:02,455 --> 01:15:02,795 [Speaker 1]

Mm.

01:15:02,795 --> 01:15:04,295 [Speaker 3]

That's the... That's what it is.

01:15:04,295 --> 01:15:07,095 [Speaker 1]

Right. Your least favorite?

01:15:07,095 --> 01:15:38,975 [Speaker 3]

My least favorite is Zay Flowers. And nothing against Zay, I think he's super talented. Um, I just

think that offense has so many other people and he's not gonna get 100 catches. He's, he's not

gonna be in that realm. Um, you know, I mean, they're gonna focus on all of the other pieces in

that offense. Um, Bateman took a step forward last year I think. I think Andrews will be better. I

think Likely's gonna get the ball. It's really just a target share thing for me. Like Zay Flowers, I

just... I wouldn't take him in the fifth round.

01:15:38,975 --> 01:16:08,535 [Speaker 1]

Okay. My least favorite for round five is Patrick Mahomes. I think he's not been a top... I don't

wanna misquote it so I'm gonna say top 15 fantasy quarterback for the last few years, but it

may be even top 20. But I... Like I said, I don't wanna misquote it. So he's not been a top 12

starting quarterback in fantasy the last two years. Why are we taking him in round five? I get

the weapons, I get it's still the Chiefs, but like it's not happened in the last two seasons so it's

just... It's too much of a risk at the fifth round for me.

01:16:08,535 --> 01:16:10,775 [Speaker 3]

Patrick was quarterback 11 last year.

01:16:10,775 --> 01:16:12,335 [Speaker 1]

No, don't give me that. Don't say that to me.

01:16:12,335 --> 01:16:13,275 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:16:13,275 --> 01:16:14,715 [Speaker 1]

So he wasn't top 12?

01:16:14,715 --> 01:16:15,255 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:16:15,255 --> 01:16:16,115 [Speaker 2]

If Rashee Rice was there the whole-

01:16:16,115 --> 01:16:18,115 [Speaker 1]

Top 10. Wasn't it top 10 the last two years then?

01:16:18,115 --> 01:16:18,575 [Speaker 3]

If I knew Rashee-

01:16:18,575 --> 01:16:20,535 [Speaker 2]

He was, uh, quarterback eighth the year before.

01:16:20,535 --> 01:16:21,355 [Speaker 3]

Stop that.

01:16:21,355 --> 01:16:26,115 [Speaker 2]

If I knew Rashee Rice was there the whole season, he would be another bounce back candidate

for me. Or fantasy.

01:16:26,115 --> 01:16:26,995 [Speaker 3]

I think-

01:16:26,995 --> 01:16:28,195 [Speaker 1]

What website are you using?

01:16:28,195 --> 01:16:28,555 [Speaker 3]

Listen, I'm never-

01:16:28,555 --> 01:16:29,675 [Speaker 1]

This is not official.

01:16:29,675 --> 01:16:32,915 [Speaker 3]

I am never, uh... I'm on Fantasy Pros under, uh, PPR.

01:16:32,915 --> 01:16:34,655 [Speaker 1]

Okay. They're good. Yeah, no, they, they know what they're doing.

01:16:34,655 --> 01:16:40,415 [Speaker 3]

And I am, I am, I am never, uh, going against Patrick Mahomes. Sorry, I disagree.

01:16:40,415 --> 01:16:40,755 [Speaker 1]

Okay.

01:16:40,755 --> 01:16:41,955 [Speaker 3]

If you like them, take them.

01:16:41,955 --> 01:16:49,035 [Speaker 1]

All right. So I know we... I said we were gonna try to breeze through this because Gabe does

have a draft. That's what we do. We, we're a fantasy football show. We draft all the time.

01:16:49,035 --> 01:16:49,775 [Speaker 2]

We're committed.

01:16:49,775 --> 01:16:52,875 [Speaker 1]

We pushed too long on this episode so Gabe is gonna have to leave us.

01:16:52,875 --> 01:17:01,995 [Speaker 2]

I'm sorry guys, this will never happen again, I promise. We, we had to rush this. I have a draft

though. I'm so sorry guys. But I hope you enjoyed my takes. You guys are gonna finish up for

me?

01:17:01,995 --> 01:17:02,155 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

01:17:02,155 --> 01:17:02,715 [Speaker 2]

Round six?

01:17:02,715 --> 01:17:03,675 [Speaker 3]

Yep, we got you.

01:17:03,675 --> 01:17:04,435 [Speaker 2]

Appreciate you guys. Thank you.

01:17:04,435 --> 01:17:05,275 [Speaker 1]

Good luck in your draft.

01:17:05,275 --> 01:17:06,255 [Speaker 2]

Thank you. I appreciate you guys.

01:17:06,255 --> 01:17:07,275 [Speaker 3]

Yes sir.

01:17:07,275 --> 01:17:11,355 [Speaker 1]

All right, well good luck to Gabe on his draft. I kind of lucked out that he left.

01:17:11,355 --> 01:17:12,355 [Speaker 2]

I hope he gets Drake London.

01:17:12,355 --> 01:17:13,055 [Speaker 3]

[laughs]

01:17:13,055 --> 01:17:13,615 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:17:13,615 --> 01:17:14,155 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:17:14,155 --> 01:17:16,795 [Speaker 3]

Actually the, the draft Gabe's going to is an auction league.

01:17:16,795 --> 01:17:17,855 [Speaker 2]

Oh, he's not gonna do that then.

01:17:17,855 --> 01:17:31,515 [Speaker 3]

And, uh, uh, we were talking, uh, off air and he said that, um, one of the things he's gonna try

to do is he's going to... You know, 'cause in auction you put a player up for bid and he said, uh,

he's gonna put Drake London up first chance he gets just so if somebody else overbids on him.

01:17:31,515 --> 01:17:32,335 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:17:32,335 --> 01:17:33,635 [Speaker 1]

Yep. Yep, and so he saves his money-

01:17:33,635 --> 01:17:33,735 [Speaker 3]

Yeah

01:17:33,735 --> 01:17:35,775 [Speaker 1]

... and dwindles other people's pockets down.

01:17:35,775 --> 01:17:35,795 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:17:35,795 --> 01:17:36,695 [Speaker 1]

That's a smart move-

01:17:36,695 --> 01:17:36,795 [Speaker 3]

Yeah

01:17:36,795 --> 01:17:37,635 [Speaker 1]

... in auction for sure.

01:17:37,635 --> 01:17:42,855 [Speaker 3]

Said a good, good, um, way to go through about that is be aggressive for the guys you want.

01:17:42,855 --> 01:17:43,195 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:17:43,195 --> 01:17:44,495 [Speaker 3]

Your team will be better in auction.

01:17:44,495 --> 01:17:47,435 [Speaker 1]

Yep. That's pretty cool. Auction leagues are fun for sure.

01:17:47,435 --> 01:17:48,415 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, never done one.

01:17:48,415 --> 01:18:06,335 [Speaker 1]

I've done one. It was many years ago. I wanna be... Get back into one for sure. So it kind of

lucked out for me that Gabe had to leave because we agreed on our favorite and then I had to

switch my favorite for round six. So really my new favorite was my second favorite. So now my

old favorite's gonna be my first favorite-

01:18:06,335 --> 01:18:07,215 [Speaker 2]

[laughs]

01:18:07,215 --> 01:18:16,535 [Speaker 1]

... because Gabe is gone and it's gonna be Calvin Ridley of the Tennessee Titans. Um, Cameron

Ward, I heard he wants to be called Cameron, but it's cool with Cam.

01:18:16,535 --> 01:18:16,935 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

01:18:16,935 --> 01:18:18,515 [Speaker 1]

So Cameron Ward-

01:18:18,515 --> 01:18:19,315 [Speaker 3]

I like Cameron Ward.

01:18:19,315 --> 01:18:30,355 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, me too. It rolls off the tongue. Uh, number one overall pick is going to be throwing to a

proven wide receiver in this league. Uh, a gambling man himself. Ooh, sorry Calvin.

01:18:30,355 --> 01:18:30,855 [Speaker 3]

Wow.

01:18:30,855 --> 01:18:32,755 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Woo, sorry. Probably cut that out.

01:18:32,755 --> 01:18:34,155 [Speaker 2]

Yikes.

01:18:34,155 --> 01:18:34,695 [Speaker 3]

I thought he was yours out there.

01:18:34,695 --> 01:18:34,695 [Speaker 2]

Serious yikes.

01:18:34,695 --> 01:18:35,435 [Speaker 3]

I thought he was your favorite.

01:18:35,435 --> 01:18:36,275 [Speaker 1]

He's my favorite. He's still my favorite.

01:18:36,275 --> 01:18:37,115 [Speaker 3]

Why you coming at the guy?

01:18:37,115 --> 01:18:41,975 [Speaker 1]

I also have been known to lay a wager or two, so we're buddies. We're buddies.

01:18:41,975 --> 01:18:43,355 [Speaker 3]

Bringing it up again.

01:18:43,355 --> 01:19:02,815 [Speaker 1]

My bad. Sorry Calvin. Uh, I'm gambling on you to have a lotta catches this year in fantasy

football and I think his opportunity... Again, the word opportunity over and over and over again.

I think Cam Ward, Cameron Ward knows...... what to do, who to get it to, and it's Calvin Ridley.

01:19:02,815 --> 01:19:12,395 [Speaker 3]

I agree. I like Calvin Ridley this year. Um, I think he has been... We know he can do it, and I

think he's got,

01:19:12,395 --> 01:19:17,456 [Speaker 3]

I mean, shoot, probably better quarterback play this year than he has in-

01:19:17,456 --> 01:19:18,216 [Speaker 1]

It's been a while.

01:19:18,216 --> 01:19:19,635 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. A, a long time.

01:19:19,635 --> 01:19:19,975 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:19:19,975 --> 01:19:26,435 [Speaker 3]

So, uh, I like Calvin Ridley a lot. I agree. He was in the running for mine. I just couldn't take him

as my favorite because of the other guy that's there.

01:19:26,435 --> 01:19:28,235 [Speaker 1]

In the sixth round is kinda wild.

01:19:28,235 --> 01:19:28,395 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

01:19:28,395 --> 01:19:32,015 [Speaker 1]

It's good value. Who's your favorite, the other guy that we're talking about?

01:19:32,015 --> 01:19:36,275 [Speaker 3]

Oh, my six-round favorite, there was really no other choice. It's, uh, Bo Nix.

01:19:36,275 --> 01:19:36,675 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:19:36,675 --> 01:19:59,875 [Speaker 3]

Um, obviously love Bo Nix, Broncos fan. Uh, watched him do his thing last year, and he's got

another year of confidence in a Sean Payton-led offense. Um, I think he surprised everyone with

his ability to run the ball, get outta trouble, get where he needs to go. Completely different

second-half player last year. First six or seven weeks, uh, he had looked lost.

01:19:59,875 --> 01:20:00,356 [Speaker 1]

He was ru- he looked like a rookie.

01:20:00,356 --> 01:20:01,455 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. He looked like a rookie.

01:20:01,455 --> 01:20:02,195 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:20:02,195 --> 01:20:25,076 [Speaker 3]

And but he came on strong second half of the season, led them to the playoffs. He's got m- new

weapons. We talked about R.J. Harvey already. J.K. Dobbins. Their run game has to be

improved. It was awful last year. They, uh, make it easy on him. They're gonna throw the ball to

the running backs, uh, over and over again, and then they have Evan Engram, who they signed

as well. Um-

01:20:25,076 --> 01:20:26,495 [Speaker 1]

Sneaky pick, that guy-

01:20:26,495 --> 01:20:26,596 [Speaker 3]

Yep, yep

01:20:26,596 --> 01:20:26,955 [Speaker 1]

... Engram.

01:20:26,955 --> 01:20:31,675 [Speaker 3]

Evan Engram will be a great pick. Uh, Courtland Sutton's back. Just got paid new four-year

contract.

01:20:31,675 --> 01:20:32,335 [Speaker 1]

Yep.

01:20:32,335 --> 01:20:49,855 [Speaker 3]

And we've got some, uh, up-and-coming receivers in Troy F- Franklin, Pat Bryant, and I think

Marvin Mims is gonna continue in his role too. So, they've got people all over for him to throw

the ball to. I expect a huge season from Bo Nix, and, um, I think he's easily gonna finish top 10

again and can sneak into the top five if he keeps running the ball.

01:20:49,855 --> 01:21:01,015 [Speaker 1]

I think it's really exciting that offense this year, um, with Bo in charge of it. I think it's really,

really exciting that you were able to name five wide receptors, four or five-

01:21:01,015 --> 01:21:01,255 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:21:01,255 --> 01:21:03,035 [Speaker 1]

... that

01:21:03,035 --> 01:21:14,375 [Speaker 1]

one of them is a clear alpha, Courtland, right? It's good to have that. But any of those other

names could pop to be the number two, and when you have that problem-

01:21:14,375 --> 01:21:14,635 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:21:14,635 --> 01:21:26,155 [Speaker 1]

... at that position, that's a good thing, right? Even, even with the running backs, like you said,

you got at least two of 'em that are gonna be very solid contributors. So, I think... And they both

can catch it out of the backfield, the running back, so...

01:21:26,155 --> 01:21:29,215 [Speaker 3]

Yep. Yep. You have to be able to catch the ball if you're gonna play running back for Sean

Payton.

01:21:29,215 --> 01:21:36,855 [Speaker 1]

So, Bo Nix at, in the sixth round is... That's the type of guy that if you don't want to take your

first four r- quarterbacks, so it's-

01:21:36,855 --> 01:21:37,095 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:21:37,095 --> 01:21:38,035 [Speaker 1]

... elite four or five-

01:21:38,035 --> 01:21:38,275 [Speaker 3]

Five

01:21:38,275 --> 01:21:39,995 [Speaker 1]

... however many you put in there with you, if you include Burrow.

01:21:39,995 --> 01:21:41,055 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. Well, I think you have to include him.

01:21:41,055 --> 01:21:50,135 [Speaker 1]

Nicks is a great guy to target. Sure. Yeah, for sure. But Nix is a great guy to target, and, and be

happy that you already... You're in the f- sixth round here, so you're looking at-

01:21:50,135 --> 01:21:50,155 [Speaker 3]

Yeah

01:21:50,155 --> 01:21:58,255 [Speaker 1]

... you could have two wide r- two r- running backs, two wide receivers, even a freaking tight

end if you want before you grab your quarterback, and this is a really good one.

01:21:58,255 --> 01:22:00,895 [Speaker 3]

I feel like Mike-4's gonna try and take him from me.

01:22:00,895 --> 01:22:01,735 [Speaker 1]

I like this pick.

01:22:01,735 --> 01:22:02,855 [Speaker 3]

Yeah [laughs].

01:22:02,855 --> 01:22:03,915 [Speaker 1]

[Laughs]. I love h- I love me some Bo.

01:22:03,915 --> 01:22:06,155 [Speaker 3]

I gotta, I gotta get him early 'cause Mike-4's coming for him.

01:22:06,155 --> 01:22:06,175 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

01:22:06,175 --> 01:22:07,795 [Speaker 3]

I seen what he's been doing.

01:22:07,795 --> 01:22:10,355 [Speaker 1]

Bo is really damn good. It's cool to see.

01:22:10,355 --> 01:22:10,375 [Speaker 3]

He's good.

01:22:10,375 --> 01:22:10,855 [Speaker 1]

It's cool to see.

01:22:10,855 --> 01:22:19,775 [Speaker 3]

It's, it's just his, like, his poise as a rookie. Like, never got down. Um, just really, really good

head on his shoulders. Is definitely somebody I, I would invest in this year.

01:22:19,775 --> 01:22:23,315 [Speaker 1]

Well, I mean, he did play eight years in college, so you had to think that the composure-

01:22:23,315 --> 01:22:24,695 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, little less than eight, but yes-

01:22:24,695 --> 01:22:25,015 [Speaker 1]

For sure

01:22:25,015 --> 01:22:27,655 [Speaker 3]

... he is, he is an older rookie, for sure. He, he's got his wits about him.

01:22:27,655 --> 01:22:27,935 [Speaker 1]

He'll be-

01:22:27,935 --> 01:22:28,275 [Speaker 3]

No doubt

01:22:28,275 --> 01:22:29,875 [Speaker 1]

... he's 25 now-

01:22:29,875 --> 01:22:30,055 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:22:30,055 --> 01:22:36,475 [Speaker 1]

... going into this season. Um, played at big college games as well, like big, big programs and

stuff.

01:22:36,475 --> 01:22:36,555 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:22:36,555 --> 01:22:38,535 [Speaker 1]

That's how you build your composure-

01:22:38,535 --> 01:22:38,735 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:22:38,735 --> 01:22:45,135 [Speaker 1]

... as a young athlete, and he's just carried it into the NFL. It, it doesn't seem to be too big for

him. He figured it out pretty quick.

01:22:45,135 --> 01:22:45,415 [Speaker 3]

Love it.

01:22:45,415 --> 01:22:46,415 [Speaker 1]

Love it.

01:22:46,415 --> 01:22:47,115 [Speaker 3]

Woo.

01:22:47,115 --> 01:22:48,115 [Speaker 1]

Yumia Soda.

01:22:48,115 --> 01:22:48,715 [Speaker 3]

No way.

01:22:48,715 --> 01:22:48,815 [Speaker 1]

[laughs].

01:22:48,815 --> 01:22:50,715 [Speaker 3]

You didn't say Jinx. Jinx Yomia Soda.

01:22:50,715 --> 01:23:20,855 [Speaker 1]

Dang, dang it. My least favorite for round six, here we are again with this position again, with a

guy that we know can do it and really struggled to do it in the first half of last year, like, really

bad, but picked it up on the second half. On a stellar offense, but still too early for me to take

this position with a guy that kinda has a, a loaded offense around him. Mark Andrews of the

Baltimore Ravens' tight end.

01:23:20,855 --> 01:23:31,275 [Speaker 1]

I just, I wait on tight end. That's it. I don't know what else to say. I, I, I would rather have Tyler

Warren. I would rather have Colson Loveland. I would rather have TJ Hockenson.

01:23:31,275 --> 01:23:32,995 [Speaker 3]

In general or where they're being drafted?

01:23:32,995 --> 01:23:33,835 [Speaker 1]

Where they're being drafted.

01:23:33,835 --> 01:23:34,295 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

01:23:34,295 --> 01:23:35,115 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. I'd rather-

01:23:35,115 --> 01:23:36,295 [Speaker 3]

I was gonna check on you real quick there [laughs].

01:23:36,295 --> 01:23:41,895 [Speaker 1]

I'd rather get those guys where they're being drafted, 'cause I think Mark Andrews maybe

scores

01:23:41,895 --> 01:23:44,435 [Speaker 1]

20 more points over the year than them.

01:23:44,435 --> 01:23:46,215 [Speaker 3]

Maybe. I mean, they could be better.

01:23:46,215 --> 01:23:46,855 [Speaker 1]

Right.

01:23:46,855 --> 01:23:50,875 [Speaker 3]

But it, it... You know, tho- those guys are completely unproven. Mark Andrews has done it-

01:23:50,875 --> 01:23:50,995 [Speaker 1]

Right

01:23:50,995 --> 01:23:51,675 [Speaker 3]

... year after year.

01:23:51,675 --> 01:23:53,915 [Speaker 1]

Right. Let me pull up the tight end list really quick.

01:23:53,915 --> 01:23:58,855 [Speaker 3]

I don't know. I don't have so much of an issue on what round I take my tight end in. And I think

a lot of-

01:23:58,855 --> 01:24:00,475 [Speaker 1]

'Cause you like ends that are tight.

01:24:00,475 --> 01:24:04,455 [Speaker 3]

... a, a lot of...

01:24:04,455 --> 01:24:04,755 [Speaker 3]

Wow.

01:24:04,755 --> 01:24:05,235 [Speaker 1]

[laughs].

01:24:05,235 --> 01:24:11,675 [Speaker 3]

I'm not sure how to take that, but, uh, I, I like the tight end position. Um... [laughs]

01:24:11,675 --> 01:24:13,055 [Speaker 1]

Mike-4's leaving the room [laughs].

01:24:13,055 --> 01:24:19,455 [Speaker 3]

Uh, anyways. Um, [laughs]. So, uh, I almost lost my train of thought on that comment.

01:24:19,455 --> 01:24:19,595 [Speaker 1]

I know. I cut that out. I cut that out.

01:24:19,595 --> 01:24:40,655 [Speaker 3]

Yeah, that was a, that was, that was an interesting one. Um, but yeah, I'm not, not so

concerned on where or what round I draft my tight end. I think if you have a guy you like, you

know, get him where you can, build around him. Uh, most fantasy championships have a

legitimate tight end contributor on them. So, we do want a good tight end now.

01:24:40,655 --> 01:24:43,275 [Speaker 1]

Going behind

01:24:43,275 --> 01:24:51,435 [Speaker 1]

Mark Andrews. Evan Engram, David Njoku, Tyler Warren, Tucker Kraft, Colson Loveland,

01:24:51,435 --> 01:24:58,215 [Speaker 1]

Dalton Kincaid, Jake Ferguson, Jonnu Smith, Kyle Pitts. I would want...

01:24:58,215 --> 01:25:03,375 [Speaker 1]

I don't think I want Dalton Kincaid. I don't think he's the guy that people think he is. But almost-

01:25:03,375 --> 01:25:03,395 [Speaker 3]

Hmm

01:25:03,395 --> 01:25:04,035 [Speaker 1]

... all of the... I know.

01:25:04,035 --> 01:25:04,335 [Speaker 3]

What?

01:25:04,335 --> 01:25:10,083 [Speaker 1]

But yeah, almost all of those other names... I think Dawson Knox is p-Still better than him. All of

those-

01:25:10,083 --> 01:25:10,963 [Speaker 3]

No, you do not.

01:25:10,963 --> 01:25:17,503 [Speaker 1]

I think Kincaid's a hell of an athlete, but I don't think... He's, he's like a... He's like K- Kyle Pitts

of Buffalo. He's just, he just can't do it.

01:25:17,503 --> 01:25:17,864 [Speaker 3]

Wow. How many-

01:25:17,864 --> 01:25:17,904 [Speaker 1]

He's athletic.

01:25:17,904 --> 01:25:20,083 [Speaker 3]

How many, how many years has Dalton Kincaid been in the NFL?

01:25:20,083 --> 01:25:21,564 [Speaker 1]

Two, I think. He's an athletic freak.

01:25:21,564 --> 01:25:25,063 [Speaker 3]

And how many full, healthy seasons has he played?

01:25:25,063 --> 01:25:26,343 [Speaker 1]

That's a good question. Zero?

01:25:26,343 --> 01:25:26,763 [Speaker 3]

One.

01:25:26,763 --> 01:25:27,743 [Speaker 1]

One. Okay.

01:25:27,743 --> 01:25:32,704 [Speaker 3]

His first year where he did really good. He was hurt last year.

01:25:32,704 --> 01:25:33,563 [Speaker 1]

Anyways.

01:25:33,563 --> 01:25:35,483 [Speaker 3]

Kincaid is a very good player.

01:25:35,483 --> 01:25:38,983 [Speaker 1]

Okay. Okay. Maybe I take him over Mark Andrews then.

01:25:38,983 --> 01:25:40,863 [Speaker 3]

I'm not... I would be okay with that. You, you just-

01:25:40,863 --> 01:25:41,323 [Speaker 1]

So, so that... So I'll-

01:25:41,323 --> 01:25:43,523 [Speaker 3]

You just bashed him when talking about Mark Andrews.

01:25:43,523 --> 01:25:50,543 [Speaker 1]

[laughs] But, but I think Ingram, Njoku, Warren, Kraft, Loveland, Kincaid, Ferguson...

01:25:50,543 --> 01:25:53,343 [Speaker 1]

John is probably not. Kyle Pitts.

01:25:53,343 --> 01:25:54,523 [Speaker 3]

No. No.

01:25:54,523 --> 01:25:55,003 [Speaker 1]

Oh. God.

01:25:55,003 --> 01:25:55,624 [Speaker 3]

I would take Ingram.

01:25:55,624 --> 01:25:57,304 [Speaker 1]

How many times do I have to do it?

01:25:57,304 --> 01:26:01,483 [Speaker 3]

I would take... I would take Ingram over Andrews. I wouldn't take any of those other players

over Andrews.

01:26:01,483 --> 01:26:03,583 [Speaker 1]

Whoa. You stopping Ingram?

01:26:03,583 --> 01:26:04,343 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:26:04,343 --> 01:26:07,003 [Speaker 1]

Tyler Warren, I think, is in for a good year, but okay. I respect it.

01:26:07,003 --> 01:26:08,743 [Speaker 3]

He's still a rookie in the NFL.

01:26:08,743 --> 01:26:12,103 [Speaker 1]

Respect it. Gotta respect it. Got to.

01:26:12,103 --> 01:26:12,983 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. Okay.

01:26:12,983 --> 01:26:13,763 [Speaker 1]

Who's your least favorite?

01:26:13,763 --> 01:26:28,263 [Speaker 3]

My least favorite round six, Aaron Jones. Man, Aaron Jones, wonderful to the fantasy

community. We appreciate Aaron Jones. Been around for a number of years. Somehow, is loved

by Packers fans and Vikings fans, and I don't even know how that's possible.

01:26:28,263 --> 01:26:28,283 [Speaker 1]

Me neither.

01:26:28,283 --> 01:26:29,383 [Speaker 3]

He must be a good guy.

01:26:29,383 --> 01:26:29,943 [Speaker 1]

Right. [laughs]

01:26:29,943 --> 01:26:30,423 [Speaker 3]

Um, but-

01:26:30,423 --> 01:26:31,663 [Speaker 1]

Great first name at least.

01:26:31,663 --> 01:27:08,963 [Speaker 3]

Oh, I mean, I love all players that are named Aaron. Um, I don't love him in the sixth round this

year. I think that backfield is gonna split. Um, I, I think that Jordan Mason is gonna get a lot of

the carries in that offense. I think they're not going to ask Aaron Jones to do a full load all by

himself. Still a great pass catcher, by the way, out of the backfield. And I think he'll, he'll

maintain that role, but I, I just don't see him getting a full allotment of carries. And I think both

of those running backs are gonna play quite a bit. I like the idea of getting Mason later than

spending a sixth on Aaron Jones.

01:27:08,963 --> 01:27:17,503 [Speaker 1]

Okay. I don't hate it. I think Mason does eventually take over. It's similar to the Breece Hall for

me, where I think the backup's-

01:27:17,503 --> 01:27:17,643 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm

01:27:17,643 --> 01:27:20,863 [Speaker 1]

... gonna eventually become the starter this season and, and I can see that happening.

01:27:20,863 --> 01:27:26,143 [Speaker 3]

The di- the difference for me is how good Hall has been and how young he still is.

01:27:26,143 --> 01:27:27,883 [Speaker 1]

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. And, you know-

01:27:27,883 --> 01:27:30,583 [Speaker 3]

Aaron Jones should be getting a helper at this point in his career.

01:27:30,583 --> 01:27:32,003 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get you.

01:27:32,003 --> 01:27:35,083 [Speaker 3]

Breece Hall, I don't... I don't see how you don't believe in the guy.

01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:35,343 [Speaker 1]

I- I-

01:27:35,343 --> 01:27:37,963 [Speaker 3]

I'm talking about the, uh, the Jets, by the way, not, not you.

01:27:37,963 --> 01:27:44,783 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah, I got you. Uh, let's, let's give Gabe his love. We'll end with the Gabe guy.

01:27:44,783 --> 01:27:45,503 [Speaker 3]

Okay.

01:27:45,503 --> 01:27:53,443 [Speaker 1]

Least favorite round six, and it's sticking with the theme that I've been going with all... This

whole time. Tight end,

01:27:53,443 --> 01:28:00,083 [Speaker 1]

Travis Swift for the Kansas City Chiefs, AKA Travis Kelce.

01:28:00,083 --> 01:28:04,403 [Speaker 1]

What are your thoughts on Kelce being his least favorite? I think...

01:28:04,403 --> 01:28:10,063 [Speaker 1]

I actually like Kelce this year, to be honest. I would probably take... I would take Kelce in round

six.

01:28:10,063 --> 01:28:12,943 [Speaker 3]

I mean, I can under- [laughs] I can, uh-

01:28:12,943 --> 01:28:14,263 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:28:14,263 --> 01:28:18,563 [Speaker 3]

You and the tight ends, man. We gotta, we gotta understand this. Uh, uh, shout-out-

01:28:18,563 --> 01:28:19,663 [Speaker 1]

[laughs] You just bashed a tight end.

01:28:19,663 --> 01:28:19,683 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:28:19,683 --> 01:28:23,883 [Speaker 1]

And then you say, "I would take him in round six." Well, I wouldn't take Mark Andrews in round

six.

01:28:23,883 --> 01:28:26,843 [Speaker 3]

He didn't just bash one tight end. He bashed three during the show.

01:28:26,843 --> 01:28:27,483 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:28:27,483 --> 01:28:29,783 [Speaker 3]

Somehow it just does not like the position.

01:28:29,783 --> 01:28:31,283 [Speaker 1]

You don't deserve a good tight end, man.

01:28:31,283 --> 01:28:33,163 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. You're gonna go tight endless in your teams this year.

01:28:33,163 --> 01:28:35,623 [Speaker 1]

Holy smoke. You know, it is a problem that I have.

01:28:35,623 --> 01:28:35,643 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:28:35,643 --> 01:28:38,043 [Speaker 1]

I do usually get... Stream my tight ends and I'm not very good.

01:28:38,043 --> 01:28:45,523 [Speaker 3]

I, I kind of... Just the history of Travis Kelce's career, I would be surprised if he didn't bounce

back a little bit.

01:28:45,523 --> 01:28:45,823 [Speaker 1]

Right.

01:28:45,823 --> 01:28:47,923 [Speaker 3]

Like, I mean, he, he's very good.

01:28:47,923 --> 01:28:48,023 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm.

01:28:48,023 --> 01:29:00,743 [Speaker 3]

Um, you know, prideful individual. Uh, obviously in way larger of a spotlight than he has been

previously in his career. And I think that's probably the knock from a lot of people is, is that,

which really has nothing to do with him playing football.

01:29:00,743 --> 01:29:01,463 [Speaker 1]

Not at all.

01:29:01,463 --> 01:29:21,743 [Speaker 3]

Um, still loved by his teammates, loved by Andy Reid. I see him getting a lot of opportunities.

The thing for him is when he catches the ball, can he run? You know what I mean? Can he be

himself? Is he athletic enough still at his age to be able to get more out of his targets? Because

that was re-... He, he had a lot of catches last year.

01:29:21,743 --> 01:29:21,763 [Speaker 1]

Yep, yep.

01:29:21,763 --> 01:29:25,503 [Speaker 3]

He had a lot of targets. Uh, he just didn't do as much with them-

01:29:25,503 --> 01:29:25,523 [Speaker 1]

No yak

01:29:25,523 --> 01:29:27,703 [Speaker 3]

... as we've seen him do in previous years.

01:29:27,703 --> 01:29:28,543 [Speaker 1]

No yak.

01:29:28,543 --> 01:29:30,123 [Speaker 3]

That was, that was the big difference.

01:29:30,123 --> 01:29:35,203 [Speaker 1]

Cameo in Happy Gilmore Too, dating Taylor Swift,

01:29:35,203 --> 01:29:38,323 [Speaker 1]

and still playing football, Travis Kelce.

01:29:38,323 --> 01:29:39,843 [Speaker 3]

And a heck, heck of a tight end, honestly.

01:29:39,843 --> 01:29:40,423 [Speaker 1]

Heck of a tight end.

01:29:40,423 --> 01:29:40,803 [Speaker 3]

Yeah.

01:29:40,803 --> 01:29:42,103 [Speaker 1]

Heck of a tight end.

01:29:42,103 --> 01:29:50,183 [Speaker 3]

Last year, he had 133 targets. 97 receptions, but only 823 yards.

01:29:50,183 --> 01:29:51,263 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, crazy.

01:29:51,263 --> 01:29:51,423 [Speaker 3]

And only-

01:29:51,423 --> 01:29:52,583 [Speaker 1]

Is there... Is yak on there?

01:29:52,583 --> 01:29:54,603 [Speaker 3]

And only three touchdowns.

01:29:54,603 --> 01:29:55,383 [Speaker 1]

Is yak on that sideline?

01:29:55,383 --> 01:29:58,003 [Speaker 3]

Yard... No, but yards per reception, 8.5.

01:29:58,003 --> 01:30:00,923 [Speaker 1]

Dang. Let's look at... I want to try to find his yak really quick.

01:30:00,923 --> 01:30:10,223 [Speaker 3]

And that... All, all of those, by the way, the touchdowns, other than his rookie year, the

touchdowns and the yards per reception were the lowest of his career.

01:30:10,223 --> 01:30:24,083 [Speaker 3]

So that, that really is what the targets and the catches really line up with, with what he does.

But they were just a lot closer and really no room for him to get open beyond that. But

01:30:24,083 --> 01:30:27,803 [Speaker 3]

I mean, a lot of the year they were missing weapons on that offense.

01:30:27,803 --> 01:30:30,423 [Speaker 1]

Yeah. Right. So he was kind of a focal point for the defense and-

01:30:30,423 --> 01:30:36,183 [Speaker 3]

Exactly right. And they've got a little bit more, you know, on the

01:30:36,183 --> 01:30:44,163 [Speaker 3]

possession receiving options than they did last year. So I think Kelce will be okay. He... I, I don't

see how he doesn't finish as a top 10 tight end.

01:30:44,163 --> 01:30:45,143 [Speaker 1]

Oh, he will for sure.

01:30:45,143 --> 01:30:46,803 [Speaker 3]

I mean, he was tight end five last year.

01:30:46,803 --> 01:30:48,843 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, he will for sure.

01:30:48,843 --> 01:30:56,443 [Speaker 3]

So I, I think what Gabe's saying is, like, he's gonna... Like you, he'll wait on tight end and draft

one of those other guys rather than use a six-round pick.

01:30:56,443 --> 01:30:57,103 [Speaker 1]

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

01:30:57,103 --> 01:31:03,703 [Speaker 3]

I think if you like Kelce and you believe in him, I think a six-round pick is okay. But there

definitely are other guys you can target, for sure.

01:31:03,703 --> 01:31:04,143 [Speaker 1]

Yeah.

01:31:04,143 --> 01:31:05,803 [Speaker 3]

Tight endless is pretty deep.

01:31:05,803 --> 01:31:08,903 [Speaker 1]

Tight endless is fairly deep, but also not great.

01:31:10,259 --> 01:31:12,840 [Speaker 3]

Hmm, we may be thinking differently after the year plays out.

01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,179 [Speaker 1]

We shall see. I hope I am.

01:31:14,179 --> 01:31:14,520 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,820 [Speaker 1]

I hope I am. People are like changing their rules in fantasy football,

01:31:18,820 --> 01:31:22,539 [Speaker 1]

uh, for tight end scoring with how bad it's been the last two years, which is kinda wild.

01:31:22,539 --> 01:31:24,079 [Speaker 3]

Yeah. He'll come back.

01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:27,919 [Speaker 1]

I cannot find... I cannot find his YAC. I just can't. Simply cannot find it.

01:31:27,919 --> 01:31:28,679 [Speaker 3]

That's okay.

01:31:28,679 --> 01:31:29,419 [Speaker 1]

That is okay.

01:31:29,419 --> 01:31:29,600 [Speaker 3]

It was-

01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,520 [Speaker 1]

I think that's how we'll wrap it.

01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:35,100 [Speaker 3]

Well, I'm gonna say his yards per catch were the lowest, so his YAC was probably right there as

well.

01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:38,259 [Speaker 1]

Probably low. Yeah, yeah. Only 8.5 yards is kinda crazy for sure.

01:31:38,259 --> 01:31:38,379 [Speaker 3]

Mm-hmm.

01:31:38,379 --> 01:31:39,959 [Speaker 1]

First year not double digits.

01:31:39,959 --> 01:31:40,520 [Speaker 3]

Yep.

01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:45,999 [Speaker 1]

Wild. I think that's how we'll wrap it. Aaron, I appreciate you for joining us. I know Gabe had to

leave but...

01:31:45,999 --> 01:31:46,839 [Speaker 3]

Thanks for having me.

01:31:46,839 --> 01:31:53,019 [Speaker 1]

Yeah, man. A lot of fun and, and I hope that you continue to write. That you didn't just write one

article just to get on one pod.

01:31:53,019 --> 01:31:55,599 [Speaker 3]

We'll see. I mean, maybe if it's offered again, maybe I'll write another one.

01:31:55,599 --> 01:31:57,479 [Speaker 1]

[laughs]

01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:58,659 [Speaker 1]

If you didn't check it out-

01:31:58,659 --> 01:31:58,679 [Speaker 3]

You never know.

01:31:58,679 --> 01:32:16,539 [Speaker 1]

If you didn't check it out yet, please do. We have a website now, thrownfantasyfootball.com. Go

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two, episode five.

01:32:16,539 --> 01:32:17,199 [Speaker 3]

Mm.

01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:26,600 [Speaker 1]

Our favorite and least favorite draft picks of the first six rounds. Hope to see you again. I know

we'll see you again. Until next time,

01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,859 [Speaker 1]

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